Yes, as that style of thing is just an old design fluorescent batten case with some LED tubes shoved inside.Even though some of the LED fittings are identical to some Fluo fittings?
Yes, as that style of thing is just an old design fluorescent batten case with some LED tubes shoved inside.Even though some of the LED fittings are identical to some Fluo fittings?
But 'take away starter' ?The LED replacement for starter is really a fuse. So not really an error.
Which is what much of this thread is all about... shoving a LED tube in an old design fluo batten case just as the manufacturers have done.Yes, as that style of thing is just an old design fluorescent batten case with some LED tubes shoved inside.
Are you perhaps misinterpreting what it is says? I take it to mean (with my red additions, hopefully to improve clarity) ...But 'take away starter' ?
Take away the starter and then Replace it with the LED starter
It is not correct. It is wrong and needs to be corrected quickly before it becomes universal.Other than for describe the fuse as an "LED Starter" (which seems an almost universal practice), that seems clear and correct enough to me.
Kind Regards, John
Are you perhaps misinterpreting what it is says? I take it to mean (with my red additions, hopefully to improve clarity) ...
Other than for describe the fuse as an "LED Starter" (which seems an almost universal practice), that seems clear and correct enough to me.
Kind Regards, John
Ahhhh I see some confusion here...The LED replacement for starter is really a fuse. So not really an error.
I would think in the main the starter replacement is there for ease of wiring when converting, since one end of the tube is a short circuit the pins simply connected together, moving the position of the fuse hardly matters.
I'm afraid you're missing my pointI do understand the convenience of adding the 'LED starter' into the cut wires between the tube ends.
That's what I said.It is not correct.
I'll leave you to try to correct 'the universe'It is wrong and needs to be corrected quickly before it becomes universal.
It sounds as if I made the mistake of thinking you were referring to the drawing you actually included in post #14Ahhhh I see some confusion here... I was working from the drawing from post #11 which is wrong.
As I've said before, I'm far from sure why the choke included in the likes of fluorescent fittings ever came to be called a "ballast", so I couldn't be sure what that term does and does not coverI see the problem an electronic replacement for a wire wound ballast is not technically a ballast, ....
At London underground stations they have warnings at the end of the platforms warning of 'high voltage'. I assume it is referring to traction voltage which I believe is 600 or 750v DC so actually low voltage.I see the problem an electronic replacement for a wire wound ballast is not technically a ballast, we have this throughout the lighting industry, the electronic transformer is nothing like a toroidal lighting transformer, and most GU10 and G5.3 LED lamps are not MR16 as they have no multifaceted reflector, bulb refers to bulbous shape so a GU10 is not even a bulb. But neither is it a lamp, historically we had a spigot on the wall, and the lamp fitted on the spigot, the lamp had the oil reservoir, the wick and wick adjustment, and the globe which fitted over the wick.
This View attachment 278987is a plug socket, the earth is reverse to lives, but in the UK we have a socket, but so many people still call it a plug socket.
The problem is once one gets pedantic where does one stop? I see a problem calling extra low voltage low voltage, there is a massive difference between 12 and 230 volt, but if it looks like a duck and swims like a duck then it's a duck, even if technically a swan.
Yes I'm fully aware of all the incorrect terms that get used, however IMO electronic ballast is a very valid term as it is a direct replacement, and exclusively, for a wirewoundI see the problem an electronic replacement for a wire wound ballast is not technically a ballast, we have this throughout the lighting industry, the electronic transformer is nothing like a toroidal lighting transformer, and most GU10 and G5.3 LED lamps are not MR16 as they have no multifaceted reflector, bulb refers to bulbous shape so a GU10 is not even a bulb. But neither is it a lamp, historically we had a spigot on the wall, and the lamp fitted on the spigot, the lamp had the oil reservoir, the wick and wick adjustment, and the globe which fitted over the wick.
This View attachment 278987is a plug socket, the earth is reverse to lives, but in the UK we have a socket, but so many people still call it a plug socket.
The problem is once one gets pedantic where does one stop? I see a problem calling extra low voltage low voltage, there is a massive difference between 12 and 230 volt, but if it looks like a duck and swims like a duck then it's a duck, even if technically a swan.
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