£7k a month benefits?!?

Actually the UK Tory provided the legal aspects to sort it out and establish it.
Francois Mitterand was a socialist, Konrad Adenaeur was a centralist.
Over 750 delegates were present at the inaugural meeting.
Until about 1998 UK did not allow challenges to it's policies on HR bases. The only option was the ECHR.
The 1998 Act encompassed the ECHR into UK legislation.
 
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Asylum applicants are not allowed to work.
Those numbers relate to people who are accepted. It's hard to be sure they didn't come from some one with a particular axe to grind.

The status of women in some countries could explain differences between "us and them" and us includes the children of original migrants who often encourage their children to progress. I've known some and also come across wife not being able to speak english. Habits' from the homeland tend to go pretty quickly I know an Arab for instance. Parents expect a large family to support them in old age. These parents did not have that many. How could they, it costs.The one I know does help support his parents. He's working and is expected to help with any relatives that aren't. He wont be growing up with the same ideas. He'll make sure he has a pension etc.

The part about less hours and maybe getting working tax credits - the jobs are needed and people are "paid" that way.

TBH I think a 20% tariff on higher flyers might be good idea - provide a reason for companies to train their own as many did. Companies want come in and does not come in with qualifications and needing what can be a long period of what is effectively training. Seems we can't even train chefs to produce Indian food. And I don't mean high end either.
 
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One thing I sometimes wonder about is this place. A level Btech etc

Why is it that when I drive past when people are coming and going I could get confused at times and decide I am in another country?
 
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Why is it that when I drive past when people are coming and going I could get confused at times and decide I am in another country?
The indigenous population is declining rapidly owing to being against anyone having more kids. I reckon the elites are attempting to replicate british india. It worked out fine for them then, and will do so again.
 
Why is it that when I drive past when people are coming and going I could get confused at times and decide I am in another country?

I've never been to Birmingham but I am familiar with many other parts of England that are now under foreign occupation.

Manchester's Market Street on a Saturday is like Bhowani Junction (but without Ava Gardner). Hordes of hostile Africans and Asians rushing in all directions to and from Primark. Manchester centre used to be such a buzzing, friendly place, always busy, bustling and lively, but bustling with Mancunians, black and white, not third world freeloaders who hate us.

Our politicians should all be strung up.
 
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hat are now under foreign occupation.
The area that collage is in is very far from being occupied by lets say minority ethnic people. So you missed the point of the post. You should notice the word minority too.

B'ham is often seen as being multicultural. There is truth in that. There are areas particularly around groups of shops that that are mostly used by ethnics and housing concentrations of them may also be higher. Take the place as a whole and things aren't so simple. Nether are adjacent areas that are called something else.
 
The employment rate among asylum migrants is 51%, compared with 73% for the UK-born.

Asylum applicants are not allowed to work.

Those numbers relate to people who are accepted. It's hard to be sure they didn't come from some one with a particular axe to grind.
If the 51% of migrants being employed is a comparative figure against indigenous employed, how on earth do you know it relates to successful asylum seekers, rather than all immigrants? Also, what is your explanation for the difference? I can think of several reasons for the difference.

I would like to see your source to explore the possibility of whether they had "a particular axe to grind". Or was it a figure you saw somewhere and decided to allocate it to something entirely different?


What on earth does the rest of your post relate to?
It certainly doesn't relate to this discussion. It looks like a politician's off-topic rambling answer to an embarrassing question.
The status of women in some countries could explain differences between "us and them" and us includes the children of original migrants who often encourage their children to progress. I've known some and also come across wife not being able to speak english. Habits' from the homeland tend to go pretty quickly I know an Arab for instance. Parents expect a large family to support them in old age. These parents did not have that many. How could they, it costs.The one I know does help support his parents. He's working and is expected to help with any relatives that aren't. He wont be growing up with the same ideas. He'll make sure he has a pension etc.

The part about less hours and maybe getting working tax credits - the jobs are needed and people are "paid" that way.

TBH I think a 20% tariff on higher flyers might be good idea - provide a reason for companies to train their own as many did. Companies want come in and does not come in with qualifications and needing what can be a long period of what is effectively training. Seems we can't even train chefs to produce Indian food. And I don't mean high end either.
 
One thing I sometimes wonder about is this place. A level Btech etc

Why is it that when I drive past when people are coming and going I could get confused at times and decide I am in another country?
Maybe just another dimension to everyone else. :rolleyes:
 
B'ham is often seen as being multicultural. There is truth in that. There are areas particularly around groups of shops that that are mostly used by ethnics
My experience of inner city 'minority ethnic' shops is that they, by and large, stock the same sort of goods as other shops, but are open much longer, and are frequented by as many white shoppers as minority ethnic shoppers. (but of course, I can't differentiate between immigrants and indigenous purely by sight, as you appear to be able to do so). Perhaps occasionally allowing for your observation of the area being high immigrant populated areas.
For sure there are exceptions, such as eastern European, and far-Eastern shops catering solely for the sale of eastern European or far-Eastern foodstuffs. But these shops are also frequented by indigenous white shoppers who have sampled their wares, and either can't get them anywhere else, or find them cheaper.
 
Given that the state is the primary beneficiary of new population, it makes sense the state should pay for that benefit.
New bad population isn't a benefit to anyone. It's a drain. A blight on civilised existence. You end up with more people sharing less and less of everything, until everyone has nothing.. A race to the bottom.
 
how on earth do you know it relates to successful asylum
It can not apply to people who are being processed as was pointed out by both you and me earlier. They can't work.

The rest, haven't you heard of goggle or that info obtained that way can be distorted according the the source's own views.

The college - is that an indication of the aspirations of the children of various races? I don't know but at times I do wonder for a number of reasons.
 
It can not apply to people who are being processed as was pointed out by both you and me earlier. They can't work.
Let me see if I understand you correctly, you claim that your 51% data set relates only to successful asylum seekers?
Please provide your source of reference. I am not aware of any data that has been released that refers only to successful asylum seekers employment.

The rest, haven't you heard of goggle or that info obtained that way can be distorted according the the source's own views.
Your facetiousness is no disguise for your blinkered mind processes. Of course I've heard of google, I'm asking you for your links to your supposed understanding of the issue. As I said, I can think of multiple explanations for your presented data.

The college - is that an indication of the aspirations of the children of various races? I don't know but at times I do wonder for a number of reasons.
Then your presentation of a scenario was a very clumsy presentation and it came across as a prejudiced view of a multi-cultural area.
 
New bad population isn't a benefit to anyone. It's a drain. A blight on civilised existence. You end up with more people sharing less and less of everything, until everyone has nothing.. A race to the bottom.
I am not surprised. If you disallow people with talent to do their thing, all you end up is the mediocre 1.7 children. It is a race to extinction.
 
and it came across as a prejudiced view of a multi-cultural area.
Some chose to see it that way which I actually found to be interesting, I expanded further next time I was on here. It's an instance of a narrow minded view and lack of thought about alternative views.

Sorry ;) but I might say the same about you. I have highlighted a negative about people arriving but there are other factors such as kids produced will benefit from our education system. Some older arrivals will too. The way people are paid which can include hand outs is how our system works. Living on the dole isn't exactly comfortable especially now. Actually for most it never has been. The humanitarian aspects can't be ignored either. There is a none obvious balance to the whole area. Those that can get jobs will.

Oh ;) I should have said people given leave to stay for various reasons.

From the OBR
UC and legacy spending was £80.4 billion in 2020-21, up from £64.3 billion in 2019-20. This increase was largely a result of a sharp increase in the UC caseload at the onset of the pandemic, together with the various policy measures in place at the height of the pandemic that temporarily increased the generosity of UC and tax credits. Spending on UC alone was £38.2 billion in 2020-21, up from £18.2 billion in 2019-20. UC spending is forecast to reach £77.8 billion in 2026-27.

The interesting aspect. It can be seen as subsidising employers. Up taxation to pay for it. Or maybe borrow.
 
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