£7k a month benefits?!?

Always supposing, and the important point - that the parents can provide for their kids, without relying on the state's support.
Given that the state is the primary beneficiary of new population, it makes sense the state should pay for that benefit.
 
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The state has no money, apart from the money contributed by it's population and what they earn.
What you own can be confiscated by the state at any moment. Ask the russians how they know? What was his name again, that football club owner? You merely live in a bubble of fiction. But, don't let me burst it. I am not that cruel.
 
It won't change the fact the UK population number is stagnating and the need to import refugees and immigrants.
The aspect that they will never be entirely clear about. Actually there seems to be some background arguments about this area at the moment. Some feeling we need them to allow growth and to fix up certain areas.

Figure out why for yourself. It's not difficult.
 
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What you own can be confiscated by the state at any moment. Ask the russians how they know? What was his name again, that football club owner? You merely live in a bubble of fiction. But, don't let me burst it. I am not that cruel.

You do have a strange point of view, but don't let me burst your personal bubble. This is not Russia and I am not Russian, nor do I own a football club.
 
You do have a strange point of view, but don't let me burst your personal bubble. This is not Russia and I am not Russian, nor do I own a football club.
"Russian" is merely a place holder. When things are desperate that place holder can hold something else.

That football club is in the UK.
 
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The aspect that they will never be entirely clear about. Actually there seems to be some background arguments about this area at the moment. Some feeling we need them to allow growth and to fix up certain areas.

Figure out why for yourself. It's not difficult.
It's called socialism. Use the imports to give the indigenous a better life. The imports work, the indigenous claim benefit. Similarly, the imports do the most unattractive jobs while the indigenous do the better ones.
 
It's called socialism
Far from it really. An obscure example. Go back to lockdowns and people encouraged to go fruit etc picking. Some did. Couple of days later they felt like cripples and gave up.

In any labour force there will be people who wont get a job and also some that can't fill available jobs. Whole host of reasons. Then take E Europeans - more likely to accept low paid jobs but also likely to be young.

:ROFLMAO: An odd aspect about boat people - they have demonstrated a fair amount of gumption. Lots are young. Albanians - are they similar to E Europeans.

The employment rate among asylum migrants is 51%, compared with 73% for the UK-born. The gap narrows over time but remains present even after more than 25 years of residence in the country. Asylum migrants who are employees earn less and work fewer hours than UK-born and other migrant workforces.

However is that entirely correct. I'd wonder about differences in women working based on things I have noticed. Also language aspects. Their kids are entirely different. A wife many not speak English. In some cases a husband might.
 
:ROFLMAO: An odd aspect about boat people - they have demonstrated a fair amount of gumption.
That got them how far exactly? They are 10 generations behind the kebab and takeaway shop owners who never got very far themselves.
 
That got them how far exactly? They are 10 generations behind the kebab and takeaway shop owners who never got very far themselves.

Some of them got to be Cabinet Ministers, Prime Ministers, and founders of enormous department stores and clothing chains. In much less than 10 generations.
 
Are you turning into Pat Ex?!?
Please don't allocate anything as hideous as that to me. It is absolutely like nothing I would say.
But if you feel the need to denigrate me so badly, I can understand. I do feel gratified that my ghost is haunting your thoughts.

No doubt I'll get excluded from all the threads again. :rolleyes:
 
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It's a natural social evolution for parents to have fewer kids as they become better educated, society becomes more affluent, child birth benefits from better health, etc.
And the general social evolution for women to start having babies at an older age.
 
There are plenty of people wanting to adopt.
Then why are there so many kids un-adopted?

Government statistics show that, in England as of 31 March 2020, there were 80,080 children in care. In that same period only 3,440 children were adopted.

In other words, if you're on long term benefit and get pregnant, you're going to have it taken off you unless you organise more income.
That'll mean more women on the streets. Mothers will do anything to keep and support their children.
 
It's just been on the news - Foster carers get for 5 to 10 £195, 11 to 15 £242 and they claim not to be able to manage on that. What?

It's seems very generous to me, especially if fostering a few. I used to have a friend, who with his wife, made fostering their lives work. They lived very well indeed on the proceeds of fostering.
 
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