The Future?

Unlikely we'll all be wirelessly charging from pads in the road, for a while yet....
fekme they can even fix pot holes at present it will be a lot longer than a while before charging pads become even slightly common in roads in the uk
 
Isn't the simplest solution - in the absence of hydrogen replacing fossil fuels, which I've always thought was the logical ultimate goal - to have "filling" stations that don't charge cars up, but swap a new (full-charged) battery in for your flat one?
Equivalent to taking out your empty petrol tank, and slotting a full one in?

Many things are standardised nowadays, so why not a standard battery and connector?
 
Removable batteries do make sense. But with a model 3 pack costing £15k the risk of Fraud and crime is high.

What happens if you are fitted with a dud pack or if someone removes some of the cells?

there can be anything up to 7000 cells in a pack and they are worth a 5er each on ebay.
 
Of course; sustain is the keyword - trying to find a way for ever more humans to live of the limited capacity for resource (re)generation is an increasingly pressing problem
I couldn't give a flying feck about sustainability, at most I've got ~30 years left. Let the whining 'we blame everything on older generation' young folk sort it out. I'm sure as they get older, many of them will come to realise life is rarely straightforward black and white.
 
I couldn't give a flying feck about sustainability, at most I've got ~30 years left. Let the whining 'we blame everything on older generation' young folk sort it out. I'm sure as they get older, many of them will come to realise life is rarely straightforward black and white.

Exactly. People trying to impose their green BS on me makes me react the opposite of the way they want me as well. Too many stupid people hanging on every word of sub-normals like Greta Funbags. Then there's our trecherous politicians running patronising tv ads telling us to use less energy - while they let in millions more people into The UK who will push up The UK's energy requirements and consumption. Why does anyone take these clowns seriously?
 
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People didn't give a feck about sustainability years ago. They didn't do things like:

Buy juice and milk in glass bottles that were handed back to be washed and used again multiple times.
Use cloth nappies that were washed and used again multiple times.
Drink water from a tap instead of buying it in plastic bottles.
Buy clothes and mend them to keep them wearable for another x years.
Hand clothes down to younger siblings.
Share bath water (ok that one's a bit yuck!)

Nah, the older generations never did anything in a sustainable way.

;)
 
People didn't give a feck about sustainability years ago. They didn't do things like:

Buy juice and milk in glass bottles that were handed back to be washed and used again multiple times.
Use cloth nappies that were washed and used again multiple times.
Drink water from a tap instead of buying it in plastic bottles.
Buy clothes and mend them to keep them wearable for another x years.
Hand clothes down to younger siblings.
Share bath water (ok that one's a bit yuck!)

Nah, the older generations never did anything in a sustainable way.

;)
Yea but people only did all that because hey had no choice, nothing whatsoever to do with trying to be sustainable and I think at least a few of those are still continued nowadays by most people.
 
Electric vehicles will not catch on, theirs is a terribly inefficient way of using energy.

We are an island of coal in a sea of oil but we are overrun with parasites, from the government to the immigrants and from corrupt big businesses to street drug dealers.
 
Buy juice and milk in glass bottles that were handed back to be washed and used again multiple times.
Use cloth nappies that were washed and used again multiple times.
Drink water from a tap instead of buying it in plastic bottles.
Buy clothes and mend them to keep them wearable for another x years.
Hand clothes down to younger siblings.
Share bath water (ok that one's a bit yuck!)

You forgot the squares of newspaper on the nail. The lack of Mc D's, sandwich and coffee shop multiples, washing done in one lot of water, with a posser, the very limited nighttime street lighting, the one coal-fired fire, instead of CH and no running HW on tap.
 
Yea but people only did all that because hey had no choice, nothing whatsoever to do with trying to be sustainable and I think at least a few of those are still continued nowadays by most people.
It's almost irrelevant. The basic point stands, decades back whether through choice or not, many things older generations did were sustainable in nature, even if that wasn't the intended outcome.

And present day, with all our 'progress' what do we have? Built in product obsolescence and so on. Companies talking as though they're the second coming by spouting stuff like 'we're going to make our products last longer ...'

Many products decades back were already made to last. etc etc.
 
Removable batteries do make sense. But with a model 3 pack costing £15k the risk of Fraud and crime is high.

What happens if you are fitted with a dud pack or if someone removes some of the cells?

there can be anything up to 7000 cells in a pack and they are worth a 5er each on ebay.

Which is why batteries for cars as we currently use them will always be flawed, in my honest opinion.


Which is why I have always backed hydrogen.
 
Isn't the simplest solution - in the absence of hydrogen replacing fossil fuels, which I've always thought was the logical ultimate goal - to have "filling" stations that don't charge cars up, but swap a new (full-charged) battery in for your flat one?
Equivalent to taking out your empty petrol tank, and slotting a full one in?

Many things are standardised nowadays, so why not a standard battery and connector?
Battery swapping is used by taxi's in Beijing in China.
Its an obvious solution to having to wait for your car with its fitted battery to be charged.
The problem of battery theft can be solved also, if there is a will to do so.
My mate used to have a car which ran on propane gas, when the gas ran out, he simply exchanged the empty cylinder fir a full one.
 
You forgot the squares of newspaper on the nail. The lack of Mc D's, sandwich and coffee shop multiples, washing done in one lot of water, with a posser, the very limited nighttime street lighting, the one coal-fired fire, instead of CH and no running HW on tap.
You forgot, no double glazing or roof insulation, rickets, polio and TB.
 
Battery swapping is used by taxi's in Beijing in China.
Its an obvious solution to having to wait for your car with its fitted battery to be charged.
The problem of battery theft can be solved also, if there is a will to do so.
My mate used to have a car which ran on propane gas, when the gas ran out, he simply exchanged the empty cylinder fir a full one.
One day in the future, we'll probably laugh mockingly at the thought of pumping many litres of highly flammable liquid into a missile.
 
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