The Future?

[ReganAndCarter]

My young nephew took his girlfriend to Edinburgh for a day out and meal. There was a specific restaurant he wanted to take her to. His heart sank when they were told it's gone cashless. He didn't have enough on his card

I do usually carry a card and use it for some purposes and a backup for unexpected spending. I prefer cash for general, small purchases.

About a year ago I went into a pub that I used to visit occasionally, and had just re-opened after being shut for 18 months. They had installed a pool table, now only accepted cards - and didn't have any ales on. Unsurprisingly I haven't revisited.

 

[^woody^]

Carry a little Honda genny in the boot.

 

[noseall]

Carry a little Honda genny in the boot.

Brilliant engines.

 

[transam]

Every leccy car sold will come with a petrol generator and charging leads as standard equipment

 

[robinbanks]

will EVs ever reach that level of convenience in terms of time to recharge? I doubt it

And yet you probably wrote that post on a phone that has 125 million times more computing power than the system that landed us on the moon. I doubt your doubts

Enough said ...

Also not sure I'd use a council as a model example of an organisation that truly knows its arse from its elbow and gets a complex set of dots properly connected time and again! It's a staffing thing, I think.. The bright sparks necessary are off earning 3 times as much in a corporate setting.

 

[motorbiking]

I'm assuming this was a free charging point? There is something about free which makes people selfish. I was at a motorhome stop in France once with free electricity and a sign said in English and French. please limit your use to 1 hour. Then this dutch couple came along and hooked up for the night with their aircon on.

EVs make sense if you have an EV charge tariff and your own charge point.

There is a Tesla Supercharger around the corner so I'm guessing these Tesla owners didn't want to pay £30 to fill up in 15 minutes

 

[diy_fun_uk]

And yet you probably wrote that post on a phone that has 125 million times more computing power than the system that landed us on the moon. I doubt your doubts


Also not sure I'd use a council as a model example of an organisation that truly knows its arse from its elbow and gets a complex set of dots properly connected time and again! It's a staffing thing, I think.. The bright sparks necessary are off earning 3 times as much in a corporate setting.

Pat Ex, is that you?!?

You don't have a fecking clue what device I typed my post on and, fyi, it was my home PC I still doubt EVs will ever be chargeable from near empty to full in ~3 mins however happy to be proved wrong in the future.

When I said 'enough said' the very point I was making is it's no surprise a local council mucked things up, so I was far from using it as a model example

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I'm sure it'll all sort itself out in the future. Folk trundling around town in EVs that top out at 25mph, driving within their permitted zone but ensuring they don't enter into an adjoining zone else their EV will auto shut down for 'environmental reasons' along with a fine. And EV use will be banned if you're travelling within a two mile radius of your home, in those scenarios you'll be forced to walk, cycle or use public transport. All for environmental reasons you understand.

I'm not even saying some of the above might not be an entirely bad idea 'in the future.' However what I am saying is I'm more than pleased I'm living now, when we still have a semblance of true freedom when it comes to transport choices.

 

[robinbanks]

it was my home PC

Oh, so about 125 million times more computing power then...

I'm optimistic your future will come

I'All for environmental reasons you understand

Of course; sustain is the keyword - trying to find a way for ever more humans to live of the limited capacity for resource (re)generation is an increasingly pressing problem

 

[bernardgreen]

Who will need a vehicle when this technology is developed into a safe and secure system

 

[ellal]

Also not sure I'd use a council as a model example of an organisation that truly knows its arse from its elbow and gets a complex set of dots properly connected time and again! It's a staffing thing, I think.. The bright sparks necessary are off earning 3 times as much in a corporate setting.

It's all going according to plan...

Get rid of in house expertise and then the dumb politicians have to get in private consultants who can spout whatever nonsense they like...

At vast expense of course to the taxpayers, but then those who operate this system don't give a toss...

Privatise the profit and socialise the debt!

 

[motorbiking]

@diy_fun_uk 200 miles in 15 minutes is doable today. V3 Super Chargers can charge over 75 miles in 5 mins.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

@diy_fun_uk 200 miles in 15 minutes is doable today. V3 Super Chargers can charge over 75 miles in 5 mins.

They're getting there no doubt, and I'm not stupid enough to think improvements won't continue. However I remain to be convinced, based purely on the convenience of refueling, that EVs will be comparable with diesel/petrol any time soon.

 

[gas112]

doesnt matter what a charger can do its whether the car/ van is capable of accepting a fast charge many cant

 

[Justin Passing]

However when you consider you can drive a diesel/petrol vehicle into a station on fumes and drive out again with a full tank only a few minutes later, will EVs ever reach that level of convenience in terms of time to recharge? I doubt it.

Yes.
Fast chargers (360 kW) already being produced, with more in the pipelines. That could be a near-flat 40kWh Nissan Leaf in 6 minutes. That's extreme at the mo, but while you're shopping at the supermarket, easily.

They'll take a while to get common with general compatibility, but a few years should do it. It may be a VHS / Betamax style race! Perhaps there will be battery upgrades available.
It'll always cost more to charge fast but smaller, urban dwelling cars won't need it so much.

Unlikely we'll all be wirelessly charging from pads in the road, for a while yet....