Genocide supporters will not like this.

[transam]

Human Shields?

https://www.btselem.org/human_shields

https://www.dci-palestine.org/israeli_forces_use_five_palestinian_children_as_human_shields

What’s a ‘human shield’, Israel’s justification for Gaza civilian killings?

Experts discuss the legal implications of the term as Israel has used it to justify attacks on hospitals and civilians.

www.aljazeera.com

Ask the mad mullers who bussed in children to run across mine fields

Ask the fruit cake hooty mob who pressed ganged children into there army as canon fodder

You hypocrit and appeaser

How’s the dog walking going ?? How is
Ali Harbi Ali ???

 

[SirGalahad]

Ask the mad mullers who bussed in children to run across mine fields

Ask the fruit cake hooty mob who pressed ganged children into there army as canon fodder

You hypocrit and appeaser

How’s the dog walking going ?? How is
Ali Harbi Ali ???

Isn't he your first cousin. You got a fancy for him haven't you. You dirty ol man.

Tranny

 

[SirGalahad]

I don't get your logic, I doubt you do.

Your justification for Israel actions is to showcase other horrible actions?

Do you even think when you post?

Too much horn smoking for tranny.

 

[fillyboy]

“O Filly, Filly, wherefore art thou Filly?”

Filly's gone very quiet.

Working you ***t.

 

[Brigadier]

Your justification for Israel actions is to showcase other horrible actions?

Some posters on here are using that exact same logic, just with the parties reversed.

Just sayin'.....

 

[transam]

Isn't he your first cousin. You got a fancy for him haven't you. You dirty ol man.

Tranny

Is your other half aware of your antics ??

Perhaps she or he is part of it ??

Each to there own

How is Ali Harbi Ali alright is he ? Getting his 5 a day ??

 

[fillyboy]

The USA now admires UNRWA but wont provide any money until fundemental changes are made. No mention of what these should be. The UNRWA reckons it will run out of money soon.

Israeli intelligence claims 1 in 10 UNRWA staff are affiliated to Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad. I suspect western countries would like to see that change before ponying up more cash.

 

[transam]

I don't get your logic, I doubt you do.

Your justification for Israel actions is to showcase other horrible actions?

Do you even think when you post?

Too much horn smoking for tranny.

I don’t get your logic doubt you do either

Do you ever consider what you are posting

Or you just cherry pick to suit yer warped narrative

Woof woof

How is Ali Harbi Ali ?? Did he kill a dog ??

 

[ajohn]

Israeli intelligence claims 1 in 10 UNRWA staff are affiliated to Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad. I suspect western countries would like to see that change before ponying up more cash.

UNRWA provide Israel with regular updates of who they employ. Why hasn't this come up before? They have the lists to allow them to vet. UNRWA are also the largest employer of Palestinian refugees. RNWA has a number of affiliates. Norway is one and they employ some local aid workers in Gaza. C4 had one on the box tonight.

The USA have said that Israel's claims are credible. That doesn't say they are true. The UN has an investigative function based in the USA. Maybe we should wait for some conclusion from them. I assume they have the evidence.

The genocide claims put forward by SA are also credible but not proven. This area can be viewed as trying to physically exterminate a race but it's far more complicated than that. The Hague court outlined their main worries in that area. Some are clearly factual now. Some will need investigation.

 

[fillyboy]

UNRWA provide Israel with regular updates of who they employ. Why hasn't this come up before? They have the lists to allow them to vet. UNRWA are also the largest employer of Palestinian refugees. RNWA has a number of affiliates. Norway is one and they employ some local aid workers in Gaza. C4 had one on the box tonight.

Maybe affiliation wasn't considered the end of the world prior to October 7th. There's always been unease about UNRWA, and not just from Israel.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/unrwa-budget-cuts-history-israel-west

Claims by Israel that 12 employees of the United Nations agency for Palestine refugees (Unrwa) took part in the 7 October attack on southern Israel have prompted a number of countries to pause funding to the agency.

The nine donors, namely the US, UK, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Australia, and Canada, cut off support for the agency on Saturday following the allegations, prompting warnings from the body that it will lose the ability to provide aid to the 2.2 million people that use its services after February.

It has long been a claim of Israel's that Unrwa - first established in 1949 to accomodate the Palestinian refugees forcibly displaced from their homes during the creation of the state - is effectively a hub for Palestinian militancy.

“We have been warning for years: Unrwa perpetuates the refugee issue, obstructs peace, and serves as a civilian arm of Hamas in Gaza,” said Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz on Saturday.

“Unrwa is not the solution – many of its employees are Hamas affiliates with murderous ideologies, aiding in terror activities and preserving its authority.”

Such claims are heavily disputed by Unrwa and the UN more broadly, and with 13,000 staff in Gaza alone, the survival of the organisation could mean life or death for many of the enclave's inhabitants.

The campaign against Unrwa by Israel and its allies did not begin after 7 October, however, as Katz admitted.

Middle East Eye takes a look at some of the earlier attempts to undermine the refugee agency:

Why all the hostility?​

With more than 30,000 staff members, Unrwa is the largest UN body, operating across Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and the occupied Palestinian territories.

Although initially created as a temporary measure to aid the displaced Palestinian people, the decades-long failure to resolve the refugee crisis meant many of the camps serviced by Unrwa have developed into full-blown neighbourhoods with permanent facilities, religious and educational bodies and essential services.

Unrwa remains at the heart of these neighbourhoods, with 99 percent of its staff recruiting from the local population.

The existence of a separate specific body for Palestinian refugees apart from the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) has long been criticised by Israel, with officials arguing that it has helped prevent the integration of the refugees in other Arab countries.

In 2018, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called for responsibility for Palestinian refugees to fall under the UNHCR, claiming that Unrwa "perpetuates the Palestinian refugee problem" by giving refugee status to Palestinians with citizenship of other countries.

The move would see millions of the roughly 5.7 million Palestinians stripped of their refugee status, undermining the right of return - enshrined by United Nations General Assembly Resolution 194 - by Palestinian refugees and their descendants to the homes they were expelled from in 1948.

Despite the allegations of ties to Hamas in Gaza, the relationship between Unrwa and the Palestinian group has often been strained - although officials have repeatedly stressed that coordination between the two is necessary by virtue of practicality, Hamas has at times intervened in the education curriculum and shut down activities it sees as conflicting with its conservative agenda.

There have also been repeated accusations that Hamas requisitioned vehicles and facilities from Unrwa for its own purposes.

Trump's cuts​

Unrwa has faced numerous financial crises since its inception.

Constant allegations about Unrwa's "infiltration" by Hamas have led to pressure from pro-Israel organisations for funds to be redirected away from the organisation.

In 2010, the government of Canada said it was redirecting money away from Unrwa "in accordance with Canadian values" over concerns that Hamas had too much power in the organisation, though these funds were restored in 2016.

In 2021, the EU also said it would be withholding some aid from Unrwa over the curriculum taught in its schools, which it claimed featured "incitement to violence" and hatred against Jews.
“Hate speech, antisemitism and incitement to violence in Palestinian Authority and Unrwa textbooks have still not been removed," the European Parliament’s budget panel said in a statement after the amendment was approved.

"The EP decisions insisted that EU-funded salaries of education civil servants who draft Palestinian textbooks must be made conditional on material reflecting values of peace, tolerance, coexistence."

In 2018, in what was arguably the single most damaging act in the organisation's history, US President Donald Trump announced an end to funding for Unrwa, stripping hundreds of millions of dollars from the body.

During a conference call with American Jewish leaders, he claimed the move was inspired by the lack of willingness on the part of the Palestinian leadership to negotiate with Israel.

“What I will tell you is I stopped massive amounts of money that we were paying to the Palestinians and the Palestinian leaders,” he said.

“The United States was paying them tremendous amounts of money. And I say, ‘You’ll get money, but we’re not paying until you make a deal. If you don’t make a deal, we’re not paying.'”

The move was condemned by the subsequent administration of Joe Biden, who restored the funding.

Reduced to begging​

In a press briefing in 2021, US State Department spokesperson Ned Price said the suspension of aid to Unrwa had "neither produced political progress, nor secured concessions from the Palestinian leadership" and had "only harmed innocent Palestinians".

Despite the restoration of some US funding, officials within Unrwa said the damage had already been done.

In a September 2023 report, released a month before current war broke out, the International Crisis Group warned a reduction of funding and "donor fatigue" had left the organisation's budget in "dire straits".

"Even if Unrwa is bailed out at the last moment, as has happened before and could indeed happen again in 2023, the perpetual state of crisis is untenable. It undermines staff morale, prompts salary strikes and reduces an international agency with a proud record of aiding Palestinian refugees to a miserable beggar for alms," said the report.

"It is also inefficient to run what amounts to a welfare state for three million people on a shoestring, as it militates against investing in infrastructure, digitisation and other updating of outlay, eroding the quality of services."

 

[JohnD]

UNRWA provide Israel with regular updates of who they employ. Why hasn't this come up before?

Saved up to divert attention from Israel's genocide

And Israel's state-supported terrorism in Palestine's West Bank.

 

[ajohn]

Maybe affiliation wasn't considered the end of the world prior to October 7th. There's always been unease about UNRWA, and not just from Israel.

LOL At least you have posted enough to show that it's a complicated subject, Suggestions that the other refugee organsiation should take over doesn't make much sense. Who would they employ to do the work? It's a pretty massive operation. Mostly schools and medical aspects plus food. The idea goes by the name sustainable development. Mostly educate in other words. Secular education hasn't worked out on either side. It seldom does anywhere. Neither side have managed to do anything about the various branches of both religions. Races tend to never forget history.

 

[fillyboy]

LOL At least you have posted enough to show that it's a complicated subject, Suggestions that the other refugee organsiation should take over doesn't make much sense. Who would they employ to do the work? It's a pretty massive operation. Mostly schools and medical aspects plus food. The idea goes by the name sustainable development. Mostly educate in other words. Secular education hasn't worked out on either side. It seldom does anywhere. Neither side have managed to do anything about the various branches of both religions. Races tend to never forget history.

Just received a link to another interesting story linked to the above, from a Jewish news outlet but worth a read.

What's really behind the sanctions on Israeli settlers and UNRWA

The Biden administration took two seemingly bold steps regarding the Israel-Hamas war this week — here's how to understand them.

forward.com

 

[Odds]

More than 800 serving officials in the US and Europe have signed a statement warning that their own governments' policies on the Israel-Gaza war could amount to "grave violations of international law".

The "transatlantic statement", says their administrations risk being complicit in "one of the worst human catastrophes of this century" but that their expert advice has been sidelined. It is the latest sign of significant levels of dissent within the governments of some of Israel's key Western allies.

"There is a plausible risk that our governments' policies are contributing to grave violations of international law, war crimes and even ethnic cleansing or genocide," it said.

BBCnews.com

 

[Odds]

Just received a link to another interesting story linked to the above, from a Jewish news outlet but worth a read.

from the link...

The UNRWA suspension wasn’t nearly as harsh as it looked, and the settler sanctions had more scope than it seemed.

The State Department, as The New York Times reported on Tuesday, has already sent UNRWA 99% of the $121 million in the current U.S. budget allocation, so Biden’s move only deprives the agency of $300,000. The real issue is whether UNRWA will be funded in the next round of appropriations, with votes expected in the coming weeks as the continuing resolution funding the U.S. government through February runs out.

He also pointed out that Israel doesn’t actually want UNRWA defunded, because then Israel would be pressured to take on direct responsibility for feeding and sheltering Gazans the war has displaced. And...there was already a backstop plan: If the U.S. does not get UNWRA funding in the next budget, he said, European countries will move aid from the less-controversial World Food Program to UNWRA and have the U.S. backfill the World Food Program.

The United States has long restricted the use of its loan guarantees and grants for absorbing immigrants to within Israel’s pre-1967 borders, and last summer the Biden Administration reinstated a rule preventing U.S. money going to academic institutions in settlements.

But the bulk of U.S. funding for Israel, $3.8 billion a year, is for Israel to buy weapons and other military equipment from American manufacturers. That money is not given to settlers who uproot Palestinians’ olive trees or torch their towns, but it does help fund the occupation.