How’s your luck with shares these days?

[gas112]

No he didn't.

really go on then put up what you think he said

 

[Justin Passing]

Does anyone want a serious answer?
Shares which did really well up until January would be well down now if I still had them. I held on to some, so those dropped, but it's a small percentage.. Some bondy things may drop now, but have been steady risers since forever. Some are in Sell pending orders so I don't know what I'll get - I'll let you know.
QUite a large % is now in cash earning nothing (4.5% or so)
Overall I'm about 4% down on the peak, I wan't smart enough. QuIte small beer compared with the positive run though.

If you're going to hold shares, then you have to acceot they wiggle even if the trend is up. You have to decide in advance what your wiggle tolerance is, and how many units of wiggle down you're going to accept before you sell., which will depend on your faith in the stock.
Overall you may gain, but short term your limit maybe exceeded so you sell at a loss. That's what holding shares means.
If you're actively watching, then you don't need to tolerate any drops outside the lines the stock wiggle between as it moves. in the up-trend.
You only buy atthe borttom of the wiggle-range, so you can tell quickly.

Notchy would buy when he thought somethig was doing well, at top of wiggle , then it would wiggle down and he'd sell at a loss. Then he's say YOU'd therefore made a loss because he had PROOF it didn't work.

 

[motorbiking]

Triple digit gains now double digit gains. Rachel from accounts convinced me to sell a chunk just after her budget.

It's actually not as bad as people think. For most holdings you are basically down around the last 12 months. If you are US/Tech heavy you would have enjoyed big growth when Trump came to power, that is gone now.

If you can stomach it - its time to buy.

I sold my Tesla too early, Still my highest performing single stock other than those I've held very long term,

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Notchy would buy when he thought somethig was doing well, at top of wiggle , then it would wiggle down and he'd sell at a loss. Then he's say YOU'd therefore made a loss because he had PROOF it didn't work.

Can you cut Notchy some slack, he's not himself, too much riding on the Woke Express.

 

[Notch7]

Does anyone want a serious answer?
Shares which did really well up until January would be well down now if I still had them. I held on to some, so those dropped, but it's a small percentage.. Some bondy things may drop now, but have been steady risers since forever. Some are in Sell pending orders so I don't know what I'll get - I'll let you know.
QUite a large % is now in cash earning nothing (4.5% or so)
Overall I'm about 4% down on the peak, I wan't smart enough. QuIte small beer compared with the positive run though.

If you're going to hold shares, then you have to acceot they wiggle even if the trend is up. You have to decide in advance what your wiggle tolerance is, and how many units of wiggle down you're going to accept before you sell., which will depend on your faith in the stock.
Overall you may gain, but short term your limit maybe exceeded so you sell at a loss. That's what holding shares means.
If you're actively watching, then you don't need to tolerate any drops outside the lines the stock wiggle between as it moves. in the up-trend.
You only buy atthe borttom of the wiggle-range, so you can tell quickly.

Notchy would buy when he thought somethig was doing well, at top of wiggle , then it would wiggle down and he'd sell at a loss. Then he's say YOU'd therefore made a loss because he had PROOF it didn't work.

I said that shares can go down as well as up
I said that 70% of DIY investors lose money

Justin Passing is getting upset because he doesnt like me pointing out facts



I notice Justin still doesnt say what overall % growth he gets from his portfolio

 

[Justin Passing]

For most holdings you are basically down around the last 12 months.

Yes I shows the SPY is at the same level now as a year ago, having been up 20%+. . "Taking profits" seems to be outside some folks' repertoire.

 

[Notch7]

na i just put 150k into premium bonds instead

gas112 says he told us all how we couldve made £££ from buying Tesla

but he didnt buy any himself

 

[fillyboy]

I've got a small high risk holding in small oil company with interests in Namibia and Cameroon, (TRP Tower Resources) farm in agreements have been made but not officially signed off by various govts, they have funding and all being well will start drilling this year. About 50% down at the moment but on reasonable news on the deals will jump 100% at a time, high risk high reward. I only have a small holding because on this sort of holding you only risk what you can afford to lose.

Main holding is a few grand in Rolls Royce (RR) bought in a few months ago, within a few weeks I was 30% up, it's gone from under a quid during covid to £8.50 last month, I bought at about £6.20.
Been dropping by small amounts the last few weeks, then 11% friday, I thought about selling then and waiting to buy back cheaper but didn't, had my finger on the sell button at 8am this morning but unable to trade before the price was crashed to £5.70 so I logged out. It's currently recovered to £6.20 but may drop back when the US markets open. I'll just sit on them now, should've sold out Friday and bought back early today but hey ho.
Thing is, they will be unaffected by the tariffs, planes sill need engines to fly. Order books are full, optimism about their new narrow body engine and if they get a slice of the small modular nuclear reactor market I would expect to see at least £12 by year end, potentially £15 so I'm completely unphased about it and it was always a long term buy for me.

If there's a bloodbath in the States this afternoon Donald's going to find himself in serious trouble and he may be forced to take action.

 

[Brigadier]

I suppose it’s just a matter of trying to guess when they will bottom out and then buy, buy, buy?

By the time you've guessed, Orangina's mates may have already been tipped the wink, and filled their saddlebags with stocks on the cheap

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I'm lazy, I've just got an S&S ISA, currently seeing a not insignificant drop (my product selections are quite high risk) like many people, so I'm currently taking the rough in the investment journey of rough with the smooth.

My only regret around all this investing stuff is that I didn't start a LOT sooner.

 

[Deleted member 317777]

Main one that i have is down 5% in a month but still up just on YTD and up reasonable amounts on 6 month and year .
But as i have held most of them for nearly 30 years i have seen them go up and down over that time but the tens of thousands in divis are a good twice yearly bonus

What shares have you got

 

[motorbiking]

Yes I shows the SPY is at the same level now as a year ago, having been up 20%+. . "Taking profits" seems to be outside some folks' repertoire.

It’s not always easy if you are sat on big gains which trigger CGT.

 

[motorbiking]

I said that shares can go down as well as up
I said that 70% of DIY investors lose money

Justin Passing is getting upset because he doesnt like me pointing out facts



I notice Justin still doesnt say what overall % growth he gets from his portfolio

Repeatedly you say DIY investors lose money but provide no evidence.

Your question to JP again shows you don’t understand this topic well.

 

[Justin Passing]

I said that shares can go down as well as up
I said that 70% of DIY investors lose money

Justin Passing is getting upset because he doesnt like me pointing out facts



I notice Justin still doesnt say what overall % growth he gets from his portfolio

No I'm not upset, I'm taking the p out of the mentally disadvantaged . Reprehensible, isn't it.
You don't point out any useful facts, like the 6 year old kid at the back doesn't.

I've already given you some numbers, you have a reading deficiency too.
The base is this, posted many times

Jumping out of that to an up-trending subsector for a few weeks, or so, makes an aggregate very much higher.
So you want me to give you some other figure to retrospectively claim I'm overstating it like you already did.
Because you're an a-hole.
What other purpose do you have for a figure?
I've showed a few times a trade I'm in has gone + 50 to 100% in a day, though it might be on a small % of Passing Empires.
I've explained methods, with the stock names, several times.
Even posted in the middle of one last week.
And earlier on, showed bank figures.
Right now I'm mostly holding cash
You will only ever want to be a Troll, I think, posting prejudiced crap.
It's like you're saying people nearly always lose betting on horses. You would if you stuck a pin in a stock list. Who cares??

I don't know why you're being so dumb about this. You said yourself that prices go up and down.
You claim you understand " all about that".
You surely see that there are mechanisms whereby you can get more of the gains than the losses.
So even you could make some tiny gains in a day.

Let's say you start with £100.
Your aim for the end of the day, is a gain of 27p.
Remembering you can bet on a gain or a loss.
If a stock is jumping about, you can set the stops and wait for it to happen, all sorts.
Now work out how you end up after 52weeks x 5 days of that, compounding.

I'll help you, it's 1.0027 to the power of 260, x £100.

Off you go.

 

[MNW67]

I remember years ago on another GD forum, those people who knew about shares always used to post "BTFD". Which stood for Buy The ****in Dip. And that is the total extent of my knowledge when it comes to this sort of thing!