US Ambassador to Ukraine quits

MNW67 said:
I understand that. What is going on has many elements and it concerns a very complex foreign constitution and legal system. It would take a huge amount of time to try to gather it all together.

I have actually just found an article which was published only a few hours ago. Basically seven high powered legal brains from across the political spectrum. It's a very good read and actually quite short. This is the end of the intro:



www.thefp.com

Is Donald Trump Breaking the Law? Seven Experts Weigh In.

Trump critics say we are in a constitutional crisis. The White House says that’s hysterical. What do our top legal minds say?
www.thefp.com www.thefp.com
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I'll admit from the off that I haven't read all of that article properly, just skim reading over the waffling parts.
The activists contributions to it really stand out though with their constant use of hyperbole.
What is interesting, perhaps more so than any response, is the question itself.

"Is this the usual clash between the courts and the executive branch? Or are we heading into uncharted waters?".

The usual clash between the courts and the executive branch?
That lends to the fact that what, Trump is doing is quite customary.

Trump knows how these things work.
He knows how long legal challenges take and he knows they buy him time, which is what he's aiming for.
Some like to portray Trump as being a dictator, in charge of everything with ultimate authority (when it suits) but we all know that isn't the case and never will be.
 
MNW67 said:
I almost forgot the second part.

The main power he has taken away is the power of the purse. Federal spending can only be authorised by Congress. The President is not supposed to be able to prevent money that has been voted on by Congress from being spent. But on a massive scale, across the country, he is trying to bully and coerce local governments and other organisations into following his agenda by cutting off funds where he has no legal right to do so. That is because the funds have been legitimately voted on by Congress.

From the article above:
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Did you find any instances of past presidents doing similar things?
 
A woman accused bill Clinton of sexual assault / rape when he was a state governor

Was swept under the carpet
 
noseall said:
Rape?

Adultery?

Shagging a porn star?

Swindling contractors?

Fraud?

Being a convicted felon?

Maybe one of the above. why do you ask?
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Adulery

Well ther was JFK

Than there was the theory that he had been shagging Marlyn Munro who died at an early age in suspicious circumstances

Than there was JFK brother and former president
Runner

Who was DUI and killed. Girl in a car accident and than fled the scene
 
Lirefighter said:
Did you find any instances of past presidents doing similar things?
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Not really. But the really important thing is the scale and the scope. Here is the start of an interview with Jack Goldsmith, a top lawyer from George W Bush's administration. His specific role, as the head of the White House’s Office of Legal Counsel, was to tell the President what he could and couldn't get away with. So he knows this stuff inside out. He is now one of the most respected right wing legal commentators and professors in the USA. He calls it all "unprecedented":

Goldsmith: The Trump administration is pushing executive power to unprecedented places in new ways on many dimensions. I’ll divide it up into a couple.
First, vertically down through the executive branch, the administration has taken an unprecedentedly broad view of the unitary executive theory. Maybe we can talk about that more later, but the basic idea is that the president gets to completely control the executive branch. Its decisions. Its firings. The interpretation of the law. The president’s views of the law prevail for the entire executive branch, and everyone has to get in line for that. And there have been elements of this before, but this is much more extreme than ever. That’s the vertical dimension.
The horizontal dimension is that they are asserting super broad executive power claims vis-à-vis other institutions that have checkpoints against them, trying to weaken those institutions.
Let’s start with Congress. The executive branch has basically been attacking Congress’s appropriation power, its core power. It’s been attacking Congress’s traditional ability to determine which agencies are which and how they’re organized. And it’s doing something analogous with courts. It has been extremely aggressive in pushing back against and game playing with courts. I would not say that there has been any sort of systematic defiance yet, but they’ve come close to the line and they’re being extremely disrespectful toward courts.
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Highway Man said:
Which out of that list do you consider the worst?
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Dunno really, perhaps rape? It would all depend on the consequences. None of it is very good. All of it can be attributed to the Orange Rapist Trump.
People have died as a direct result of the orange rapists actions, so perspective is needed when judging just what a horror show the idiot really is.
 
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