Israel Accuses Europe Of Inciting US Shooting

[denso13]

Hey you, stop throwing these stones at that car!!!

(shouts someone whilst throwing stones at a different car)

More fairy stories.

 

[fillyboy]

What I find astonishing isn't the fact that antisemitism exists but that there is so little of it, given the horrendous scenes coming out of Gaza.

The story about the 9 children killed is atrocious, if it happened, and depending on the circumstances.

Lets look at the last week.

On Monday the UN unequivocally stated that unless aid was delivered to Gaza immediately 14,000 babies will die within 48 hours. On Thursday they were forced to issue an apology and explanation.

On Tuesday an interview was shown on ITV news where a nurse/aid worker stated that nobody in Gaza had eaten for 78 days.

On Wednesday two young Israelis were executed in America simply for being Jewish.

Wake up you ******g nutters.

 

[JohnD]

The story about the 9 children killed is atrocious, if it happened,

Why should these nine deaths be considered worse than the many thousands of others exterminated by Israel, simply for not being Jewish?

 

[fillyboy]

Why should these nine deaths be considered worse than the many thousands of others exterminated by Israel, simply for not being Jewish?

They shouldn't be considered at all John, they're simply war casualties in a conflict they've brought upon themselves.

'Here I am, I'm an arab, you're a jew, here's a rocket up you're arse, **** you, come and have a go if you think you're hard enough'.

That's the scenario John, how do you think it will end?

 

[Deleted member 323070]

War, and those who lead it, are full of hypocrisy.

After this tragic event, Netanyahu gives a speech chastising this one that one for these deaths. Meanwhile, he's orchestrating the deaths of hundreds, thousands.

And I'll say it again before any of you start on me, I'm simply using this case as an example, I am not taking or implying sides in making this post. I am making reference to the sheer and utter hypocrisy of war. If you stop and think about it, it actually beggars belief.

I think we should give very careful consideration to treating military as heros irrespective of the theatre of conflict in which they participated.
If it's not genuine self-defence, it should deserve no praise nor hero worship.
Violent retaliation should always be a last resort.
There's been only a few theatres of conflict for UK, where that principle applies, since the end of WW2. Although perhaps the violence was too quickly employed before other non-violent resolutions were sought.

Falklands, and the invasion of Kuwait applies. Although it's recognised that we were only supporting Kuwait, and we were not directly involved.

Ukraine is another conflict where we can justifiably support the defenders.

Palestine is another where we should be supporting those experiencing enormous suffering, and potential war crimes, including genocide.
The Israel offensive has become massive mission creep. Any vestige of proportionality or justification has long gone.

Any other theatre of conflict that has engaged UK military has been more of a mercenary involvement, including the supply of weapons.

In conclusion, I believe there is a middle ground when violence can be justified, this would mean that either extreme recklessness (too much) or cowardice (too little) should be avoided, as they are both vices. Instead, we should aim for the virtuous middle path.

It means using force wisely and only when all else has failed: this is what makes someone courageous in their use of force, and therefore deserves the title of hero.

 

[denso13]

They shouldn't be considered at all John, they're simply war casualties in a conflict they've brought upon themselves.

'Here I am, I'm an arab, you're a jew, here's a rocket up you're arse, **** you, come and have a go if you think you're hard enough'.

That's the scenario John, how do you think it will end?

Then go after those that fired the rockets. Stopping all aid getting in to Gaza punishes wholly innocent people, for example. More war crimes by Israel.

 

[Highway Man]

Then go after those that fired the rockets. Stopping all aid getting in to Gaza punishes wholly innocent people, for example. More war crimes by Israel.

That is what the IDF is doing.

 

[denso13]

That is what the IDF is doing.

I know, they can't help themselves.

 

[Highway Man]

I know, they can't help themselves.

They have no choice.

 

[denso13]

They have no choice.

They have no choice in stopping all aid and food entering Gaza? Are you sure?

 

[Highway Man]

They have no choice in stopping all aid and food entering Gaza? Are you sure?

They have released 90 lorry loads of food and medicine just recently. Personally speaking, I feel they should release a lot more

 

[denso13]

They have released 90 lorry loads of food and medicine just recently. Personally speaking, I feel they should release a lot more

There was zero aid allowed in for months. That's a war crime.

No choice my arze.

 

[Highway Man]

Well that is your opinion of it, I am sure there were legitimate reasons and probably still is legitimate reasons for only 90 that they let in. It could be classed as a war crime if there were no legitimate reason for doing so, pretty sure that there will be though.

 

[denso13]

pretty sure that there will be though.

Of course you are.

Snipers shooting children, yea, they had no choice.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

OMG. I am half English.

Then I would have expected you to be able to communicate effectively in your first language.