Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[motorbiking]

So you don't deny that it is a Company, owned and controlled by its shareholders, and that Farage has a controlling interest.

We've already discussed how the party is governed by the same rules as others.

Nigel Farage gives up ownership of Reform UK

The party says it wants to professionalise and give more control to members.

www.bbc.co.uk

Other political parties are controlled by their membership.

It's votes that count in the end.

 

[motorbiking]

Basic strawman

Other U.K. parties have a constitution, they have a committee handling party affairs, members have no voting power to influence policy.


Another strawman


Which have no power


Another strawman.

NotchyFacts™

 

[Notch7]

He's just a mere councillor. He's a newby. He'll soon pick it up as he goes along

So you admit Reform councillors are clueless


Reform led councils will be a massive failure……we can have a look at history to see that, have a look at UKIPs attempt to run Thanet.

 

[Notch7]

We've already discussed how the party is governed by the same rules as others

No, it just means the Reform party has to comply with the rules of the electoral commission and Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act , both of which are basic and don’t require parties to have much in the way of a democratic structure.

Farage needs no democratic mandate from his own party membership.

All other political parties are bound by the rules of their own constitutions when electing a leader, whereas Reform do not currently have a constitution by which to be bound, nor is there a committee (chosen by members) to handle internal party affairs.

This means there is no formal role assigned to their membership during leadership elections, unlike with all other political parties. Beyond this, it means that the largest shareholder is essential unbound within the organization.

Nigel Farage has consequently been able to ‘elect’ himself to the role of party leader. Democratically, this is potentially highly concerning. If, as many predict could happen, Reform continue to perform well in national elections over the coming years, the leader of one of the most influential parties at Westminster could have no democratic mandate from his own party membership

 

[Notch7]

It's votes that count in the end

Yes as Americans are now finding out.

“Latinos for Trump” are now seeing their fathers, Uncles, cousins being rounded up by thugs with no identification, masks over their faces and deported without fair due process.

 

[Mottie]

So you admit Reform councillors are clueless


Reform led councils will be a massive failure……we can have a look at history to see that, have a look at UKIPs attempt to run Thanet.

Who's your political hero? Did they start in politics full of knowledge?

 

[Mottie]

If, as many predict could happen, Reform continue to perform well in national elections over the coming years

Not if, when.

 

[securespark]

You already said that a bit ago...
Remember?

You have already repeated yourself ad nauseam.

It's getting so tucking fedious in these threads.
I think where it is known from past history that there will always be a violent clash on a topic, there is absolutely no point starting up yet another.

 

[motorbiking]

No, it just means the Reform party has to comply with the rules of the electoral commission and Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act , both of which are basic and don’t require parties to have much in the way of a democratic structure.

Farage needs no democratic mandate from his own party membership.

All other political parties are bound by the rules of their own constitutions when electing a leader, whereas Reform do not currently have a constitution by which to be bound, nor is there a committee (chosen by members) to handle internal party affairs.

This means there is no formal role assigned to their membership during leadership elections, unlike with all other political parties. Beyond this, it means that the largest shareholder is essential unbound within the organization.

Nigel Farage has consequently been able to ‘elect’ himself to the role of party leader. Democratically, this is potentially highly concerning. If, as many predict could happen, Reform continue to perform well in national elections over the coming years, the leader of one of the most influential parties at Westminster could have no democratic mandate from his own party membership

Reform have a constitution.

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/reformuk/pages/2206/attachments/original/1737469219/Reform_UK_Constitution_2025.pdf?1737469219

 

[Notch7]

Who's your political hero? Did they start in politics full of knowledge?

Reform party candidates have no interest in the hard graft of local issues, they came into the party because they like selling its propaganda.

If you think faux patriotism and hatred of foreigners is a skill set useful for local issues, more fool you.

Compare with Lib Dem councillors who have built a solid base by caring about local issues and have grown the party from grassroots.

 

[motorbiking]

Reform party candidates have no interest in the hard graft of local issues, they came into the party because they like selling its propaganda.

If you think faux patriotism and hatred of foreigners is a skill set useful for local issues, more fool you.

Compare with Lib Dem councillors who have built a solid base by caring about local issues and have grown the party from grassroots.

The "something must be done" party of the NIMBY.

 

[Notch7]

You already said that a bit ago...
Remember?

where do you get your information from?

You claim MSM isn’t the truth, so please can you say where you get your information from

 

[Notch7]

The "something must be done" party of the NIMBY.

If you knew anything about local politics you would know Lib Dem’s have over the last 2/decades built a so.I’d grassroots campaign.


Reform party councillors don’t give a flying fork about local communities, it’s purely a propaganda party pushing hatred of foreigners to create a common enemy.

All Reform councillors want to do is phoney culture wars, attack any green policies and hate foreigners……none of that’s gonna get pot holes filled.



Motorbiking, you are intelligent enough to know Reform won’t help people, you know what they stand for, but you don’t care because they will do what a trump is doing: cut taxes and regulations for the rich

 

[Notch7]

Not if, when.

Why are you so keen on a party winning that will sell out U.K. sovereignty to foreign powers?

 

[Notch7]

I don't think motorbiking was denying anything.
I think he was insinuating one of the above statements may be wrong.

Reform party membership numbers is falling

Reform party is a company, they don’t have real members, because membership doesn’t buy you any power.

I am sorry Motorbiking is always wrong, perhaps he should stop being a right wing lying grifter.