Today's entertainment... holes under structural beams

[asnoop20]

Awful build from 1984, no padstone, long 3M lintel has some deflection in it. Builders stuck the original boiler vent less than two blocks directly under the lintel. It's the gable end but the lower wall extends some to a garage.

2013 new boiler was installed with flue above the hole. Do gas safe engineers not do basic structural training? Anyhow the guy clearly couldn't be arsed as the install was terrible.

Outcome... blocks cracked, bricks cracked.

Repair under way.

 

[noseall]

Awful build from 1984, no padstone, long 3M lintel has some deflection in it. Builders stuck the original boiler vent less than two blocks directly under the lintel. It's the gable end but the lower wall extends some to a garage.

2013 new boiler was installed with flue above the hole. Do gas safe engineers not do basic structural training? Anyhow the guy clearly couldn't be arsed as the install was terrible.

Outcome... blocks cracked, bricks cracked.

Repair under way.

OMFG!

 

[^woody^]

And yet the house is still standing.

Does that mean approved documents are wrong and structural engineers too cautious?

 

[noseall]

And yet the house is still standing.

Does that mean approved documents are wrong and structural engineers too cautious?

No.
It means, don't rely on the 'no one in the house sneeze' method of building.

 

[asnoop20]

It was 1984 in the north of England, miners became builders with no training or experience. They were in a trade for which they had no love and the house build is abysmal. The company went bust 5-10 years later.

RSJ is resting on one block which is resting on two blocks but one as you can see is mostly see-through , so I think it's at about 50% structural integrity.

It's been like that for a long time but then the moron of a plumber made it worse, and he couldn't be arsed to patch up the existing hole. He actually committed suicide several year back so I can't ring him up and give him ****.

 

[^woody^]

No.
It means, don't rely on the 'no one in the house sneeze' method of building.

The Brighouse Whooping Cough Choir and the Richmond Rhinitis Orchestra could perform in that house, no problem.

 

[catlad]

I'm just thinking, where is the temporary prop until the wall is plugged? or are we waiting for the whooping cough choir?

 

[asnoop20]

I don't have one so it's not being plugged until a builder doing RSJ work arrives. I don't fancy my chances without!

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

The plaster you've removed was probably 10% of its strength. If you keep nibbling, you'll hear a crunch at some point.

 

[Deluks]

I don't have one so it's not being plugged until a builder doing RSJ work arrives. I don't fancy my chances without!

You can hire them for mere pounds, don't delay.
That horizontal 2x1 batten is putting in a good shift!

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Would the

2013 new boiler was installed with flue above the hole. Do gas safe engineers not do basic structural training? Anyhow the guy clearly couldn't be arsed as the install was terrible.

If the hole were drilled, when the boiler was fitted, once the ceiling and walls were plastered, the installer likely would not be aware of the RSJ hidden in the ceiling. You need, as a matter of great urgency, to get that RSJ supported.

 

[asnoop20]

He would definitely have known about there being an RSJ, there's nothing else going to support a 3M gap in the wall. Unless that is he lacked common sense...

The guy was obviously a bit of a plonker, he mounted the boiler on a drywall piece so he could align the drywall piece with the flue hole he drilled prior. He also forgot an olive on the 22mm WCH return pipe. I wonder if it were pure luck that he didn't drill the flue hole just 10cm to the right, which would probably have been good night for him.

I don't have a date as of yet for the guy doing RSJ work (I'm having one put under the existing), so I'll buy an acrow prop tomorrow.

 

[asnoop20]

All sorted.

 

[Dereekoo]

All sorted.

Pic a bit further back like the 1st picture would have been more informative but job sorted so everyones happy

 

[jj4091]

All sorted.

Not quite. The electrics don't look particularly safe.