You are not supposed to put solid and stranded in the same terminal anyway.
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Spurred fuse terminal capacity
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You can if you are a conservatory installer!
I thought it was at to but the load goes off to the conservatory, as for supply, 2 of the wires are for the ring main, one is for a socket nearby and the other one I couldn’t determine what it was for suspect it’s another socket, I can’t understand why the socket and suspected socket weren’t in the load side?
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If supply and load are wired reverse sense and your switch incorporates a (neon) indicator it shows up by being permanently indicated in either switch position.
I would recommend further investigation of that wiring though to determine any possible problems lurking to bite you!
I would recommend further investigation of that wiring though to determine any possible problems lurking to bite you!
No neon or switch unfortunately, unswitched spur, it’s like there used the supply terminal as sort of a junction box, with the 2 sockets spurring off it, I don’t no why they just didn’t put it in the load, they must of had a hell of a job fitting 4 wires in the one terminal
Yes but like I said previously, I would not expect any half decent terminal having a problem at the terminals themselves with 4 (or 5 minimum) conductors, If you only have a single metal box unlike a twin metal box then I can envisage that to the ordinary person (as against experienced electricians) might have a problem dressing the wires nice and neat and compact to go into said terminals. If again your box was deeper than 25mm then it would also make it a little easier but again experience counts.
And I agree it is a sloppy design to have too many outgoing conductors (ideally only one but yes two ok).
I know myself I have come across things already terminated badly and strived to dress them more neatly and it can be the devils own job down to existing lengths and bends and kinks appropriately.
And I agree it is a sloppy design to have too many outgoing conductors (ideally only one but yes two ok).
I know myself I have come across things already terminated badly and strived to dress them more neatly and it can be the devils own job down to existing lengths and bends and kinks appropriately.
I suppose they might have been frightened of blowing the fuse with so many sockets on the load.
As described the fuse isn't necessary for the spurred sockets.
What is on the load side?
What is on the load side?
Yes, so what?
As above - no need to have them on the fused side.
Apparently not - especially as now we know two of them are stranded.
- well they have spurred off twice on a ring main potentially overloading so yes they do need to be on the load side
And that was my original question, you look at any reputable manufactures data sheets the terminal capacity is almost always 3x 2.5mm (one person on the feed did find one) seems rare that one officially accepts 4, I would argue if your putting 4 wires into a terminal which should only accept 3 your overcrowding it
Incorrect.
And do they also state that it will accept 3 x 4mm²?
If they do then it will easily accept 4 x 2.5mm².
If they don't and it will not then it is not fit for purpose in the U.K.
Then you will lose that argument.
You are not allowed to have two spurs, from a single point on the ring
And no, it’s normally Terminals accept 3 x 2.5mm², 2 x 4mm² or 1 x 6mm² cables,
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