Small boat crossings

[motorbiking]

I just want to clarify what you are saying. Do you mean we can take asylum seekers who have landed in the UK back to France and they have to accept them.

No.

I am saying that there are scenarios where their claim can be rejected because of these links. There has to be a reasonable prospect of getting them to leave. As I said “there are scenarios”.

I do not support the idea that “take backs” can work unless we adopt the Greek alleged approach of smuggling them in.

 

[Highway Man]

WRONG

I suggest you go and read the refugee convention, you might learn that entering a country to claim asylum is not illegal

How can you simply say WRONG.
It is all in black & white, I think motorbiking is better informed to give his opinion and interprett the laws better than any of us. He has basically confirmed how I understood the paperwork to read which is what I was saying to @denso13

 

[MNW67]

It is all in black & white, I think motorbiking is better informed to give his opinion and interprett the laws better than any of us. He has basically confirmed how I understood the paperwork to read which is what I was saying to

I don't think anyone on here is in a position to interpret French law. Most seem to struggle with basic English law. But I still can't work out what you are all trying to prove and how it has any impact on our problem here. Admittedly, I haven't followed in detail.

 

[Highway Man]

I don't think anyone on here is in a position to interpret French law. Most seem to struggle with basic English law. But I still can't work out what you are all trying to prove and how it has any impact on our problem here. Admittedly, I haven't followed in detail.

It is French law written in english. Agreed a solicitor is the best to interprett the law, hence why I wanted motorbiking to take a look and give his opinion.

 

[motorbiking]

I don't think anyone on here is in a position to interpret French law. Most seem to struggle with basic English law. But I still can't work out what you are all trying to prove and how it has any impact on our problem here. Admittedly, I haven't followed in detail.

It’s quite simple there was a statement that French law is different to U.K. law regarding the immigration offence of illegal entry. While it’s written differently, it amounts to the same.

Illegal entry - is an offence. Of course if you claim asylum you might be excused. But you do actually have to claim.

Can you imagine if illegal entry wasn’t an offence? We could send them back by the boat load

 

[MNW67]

Can you imagine if illegal entry wasn’t an offence? We could send them back by the boat load

So the point you are discussing is whether it is an offence to enter France illegally. Because if it isn't an offence, we could send all the boat people back to France and they would have to accept them back.

 

[motorbiking]

So the point you are discussing is whether it is an offence to enter France illegally. Because if it isn't an offence, we could send all the boat people back to France and they would have to accept them back.

No. It’s simply correcting the view that they haven’t committed a crime entering france illegally. Hence “illegal immigrants”.

 

[MNW67]

No.

So what is the point of the discussion. Please just tell me clearly and logically. How does it help our situation or have any bearing on stopping the small boats.

 

[motorbiking]

Sorry. I edited to add more explanation

 

[motorbiking]

So what is the point of the discussion. Please just tell me clearly and logically. How does it help our situation or have any bearing on stopping the small boats.

I just answered highwayman’s question. Denso doesn’t reply to my posts, the conversation was between him and HWM.

 

[Highway Man]

So what is the point of the discussion. Please just tell me clearly and logically. How does it help our situation or have any bearing on stopping the small boats.

It started by me saying that ilegals have to register for assylum in France, denso said not. It just went too and fro from there on.

 

[MNW67]

I just answered highwayman’s question. Denso doesn’t reply to my posts, the conversation was between him and HWM.

Thanks. That makes more sense.

 

[MNW67]

It started by me saying that ilegals have to register for assylum in France, denso said not. It just went too and fro from there on.

Thanks. I get it now!

 

[Highway Man]

Thanks. That makes more sense.

I asked for motorbiking to clarify what I was saying as I did say I may have interpretted it wrong.

 

[motorbiking]

It started by me saying that ilegals have to register for assylum in France, denso said not. It just went too and fro from there on.

If they want to be protected from prosecution for immigration offences they have to claim asylum.

Of course that isn’t in France’s interest if they hope they will carry on to the U.K. France would not want to give the U.K. grounds to reject a claim.