Totally predictable: Trump discusses giving land to Russia

[Notch7]

Remind me, WTF did Biden do in the preceding years?

Biden tried to put through a big package of support for Ukraine

It got blocked by Republicans acting under pressure from Trump.

Because of that Ukraine ran out of ammunition and Russia were able to advance easily.


Trump has always been on Putins side

 

[Highway Man]

Putin wants land some of which is still occupied by Ukraine

He will simply take it if not given to him, Only way 2 ways of stopping him is through force and cutting a deal, a deal is a better proposition as you have the chance of limiting what he wants.

 

[Highway Man]

Biden tried to put through a big package of support for Ukraine

It got blocked by Republicans acting under pressure from Trump.

Because of that Ukraine ran out of ammunition and Russia were able to advance easily.


Trump has always been on Putins side

Don't talk stupid. Trump may view him as a business collegue rather than an enemy but he is not on his side.

 

[Munroast]

It is high time to make a friend out of Putin, better to be on his side than to make an enemy out of him, he already occupies the land that is in question, too much Russian blood has been spilt for him to walk away now, he would never give it back and Trump knows that fact, therefore best to cut a deal now before it ends in Europe being at war with Russia, Europe is not ready yet to take on Russia and its allies.

Putin won't stop with a bit of Ukraine, he may wait for a year or two (till he rebuilds), then he will be coming back for more, including some of the Baltic states, don't let him rebuild, he needs a bloody nose now. And if that means Europe fighting for itself then so be it.

 

[Highway Man]

Putin won't stop with a bit of Ukraine, he may wait for a year or two (till he rebuilds), then he will be coming back for more, including some of the Baltic states, don't let him rebuild, he needs a bloody nose now. And if that means Europe fighting for itself then so be it.

I agree but that is about the sum total that we could give him.

 

[Notch7]

Remind me, WTF did Biden do in the preceding years?

Not relevant

At the beginning of the war Putin had a massive war chest, loads of soldiers and plenty of equipment.

Now Putin is far weaker, the Russian economy is in trouble, Russia is only gaining ground at a snails pace, Ukraine is damaging Russian infrastructure.


You are dishonestly trying to compare very different situations.

 

[Highway Man]

At the beginning of the war Putin had a massive war chest, loads of soldiers and plenty of equipment.

and still has, he has some very powerful allies that without American suupport we would have no chance against.

 

[Notch7]

Putin won't stop with a bit of Ukraine, he may wait for a year or two (till he rebuilds), then he will be coming back for more, including some of the Baltic states, don't let him rebuild, he needs a bloody nose now. And if that means Europe fighting for itself then so be it.

Totally agree.

Putin is at his weakest now so it’s the best time to give him a bloody nose.

Allowing him a year or two to rebuild will lead to a far more expensive war in the future

 

[Highway Man]

Totally agree.

Putin is at his weakest now so it’s the best time to give him a bloody nose.

Allowing him a year or two to rebuild will lead to a far more expensive war in the future

You have no millitary knowledge to say this, stop being silly and war mongering. Look at the fuss you all make over Israel in Gaza and yet you are wanting to go to war with Russia. Stupid idea.

 

[Koolpc]

Totally predictable: Notchy loves Trump so much that he cannot stop making threads about him!!!​

 

[Highway Man]

Putin is at his weakest now so it’s the best time to give him a bloody nose.

If Putin is so weak and at his weakest yet he is still taking land and Europe is throwing everything at Ukraine to help them, that should be enough to ring alarm bells in your head.

 

[denso13]

He will simply take it if not given to him, Only way 2 ways of stopping him is through force and cutting a deal, a deal is a better proposition as you have the chance of limiting what he wants.

You mean surrender? No, Ukraine should not do that, it is a shameful suggestion. We'd all be talking German if you had your way.

Ukraine should be given all the help they need to stop the illegal invasion and land grab.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Two Tier is giving away our territory to other countries as well. And we're not even at war with Mauritius.

 

[denso13]

Two Tier is giving away our territory to other countries as well. And we're not even at war with Mauritius.

He is giving them their territory back, by negotiation. There's a bit of a difference.

 

[noseall]

And we're not even at war with Mauritius.

So clever is our Sir Keir.