Reform immigration plan

[Highway Man]

Human right lawyers and litigation costs could go through the roof.

That's why we would have the all new British bill of rights instead of the human rights bill to avoid such nonsense.

 

[blup]

Reform appear to be our only hope, but they are not much hope. Paying a country to take its criminals back is morally wrong, it is a form of ransom payment and it will not work. Only military action to bodily remove people will work, and we have presently no leader in the country with the backbone to do this, plus we haven't the military might to do it - we would need assistance from a friendly foreign power.

Any solution offered by Labour or the Conservatives should be discarded with maximum contempt - they are the very people who brought the illegals here and still want them to come. They would "Get deportation done" like they got Brexit done, i.e. not at all, except by their own dishonest measurements.

The invaders will keep on coming and replacing us, which is great news if you are a communist, but is for decent people frightening and depressing.

This reads like the plot of a really bad sci fi novel. Completely divorced from reality. Maybe the friendly foreign power could be aliens .

 

[noseall]

That's why we would have the all new British bill of rights instead of the human rights bill to avoid such nonsense.

Nonsense you may think it is. However, The UK will always afford its inhabitants human rights. The UK will always have human rights lawyers, litigation and costs.

 

[Highway Man]

Nonsense you may think it is. However, The UK will always afford its inhabitants human rights. The UK will always have human rights lawyers, litigation and costs.

They will become something else, perhaps retrain as builders or something as they will become redundant.

 

[noseall]

They will become something else, perhaps retrain as builders or something as they will become redundant.

Oh Kay.

 

[Notch7]

Reform appear to be our only hope

Reform are just Tories.

Reform party would:

cut taxes for the rich,
increase wealth inequality,
more privatisation,
Sell the U.K. to foreign investors


Reform would make the standard of living worse for ordinary people

And you think that’s our only hope

 

[Highway Man]

Reform are just Tories.

Reform party would:

cut taxes for the rich,
increase wealth inequality,
more privatisation,
Sell the U.K. to foreign investors


Reform would make the standard of living worse for ordinary people

And you think that’s our only hope

Looks like you was telling the truth about that telephone call to the Taliban with Farage. They have accepted his deal.

 

[Notch7]

They would "Get deportation done" like they got Brexit done, i.e. not at all

Brexit was done 100% = we left EU membership, SM and CU

What you mean is that Brexit never delivered the false claims that Vote Leave sold you.

You’ve fallen for Farages Brexit con and now you are back falling for his asylum seeker con


By the way you were called . last time here.

 

[Notch7]

Looks like you was telling the truth about that telephone call to the Taliban with Farage. They have accepted his deal.

It’s no surprise.

Farage is a big supporter of Putin
Putin helped get Brexit done
Putin is an ally with the Taliban.

I am sure Highway Man that supposedly did tours in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban is most pleased Farage is Betsy mates with the Taliban.

 

[Notch7]

Same thing, lets have those out too.

Labours already doing it.

 

[MNW67]

Nonsense you may think it is. However, The UK will always afford its inhabitants human rights. The UK will always have human rights lawyers, litigation and costs.

I am not so sure. You might be surprised how little inherent protection there is under British law. As far as I know, if we leave the ECHR and the other international treaties mentioned, such as the one banning torture, then there would be very little protection left. Parliament has the right to make any laws it wants. If Reform wanted to pass a law making torture legal in the UK and had the numbers in Parliament, I don't know what would stop it being legal.

 

[Deleted member 317777]

I am not so sure. You might be surprised how little inherent protection there is under British law. As far as I know, if we leave the ECHR and the other international treaties mentioned, such as the one banning torture, then there would be very little protection left. Parliament has the right to make any laws it wants. If Reform wanted to pass a law making torture legal in the UK and had the numbers in Parliament, I don't what would stop it being legal.

So torture will be legal soon ?

Or have I missed your point.

 

[MNW67]

So torture will be legal soon ?

Or have I missed your point.

You have missed my point. It was an extreme example to highlight the limits of the inherent protections we have here in the UK. If we leave the ECHR and the treaty banning torture, there is nothing in theory to stop a government passing a law to make torture legal. It was a reply to noseall, who said we would always have human rights in the UK, even if we left these international treaties.

 

[Odds]

That's why we would have the all new British bill of rights instead of the human rights bill to avoid such nonsense.

What's wrong with the 1689 version?

 

[MNW67]

What's wrong with the 1689 version?

It gives very limited protections. Although, some may think it goes too far