Englands national Dish.

[Elsa TLC]

Im not having that Chicken Tikka Masala is our nation dish.

Cooked well and presented well, I love a Masala and any given day it might be my choice of meal on any given night.

But its not our national dish.

 

[morqthana]

But all you do here is to make random posts with bonkers ideas or totally isolated non-sequiturs.

When you say "Im not having that Chicken Tikka Masala is our nation dish", is that just because you don't like the idea, or don't want it to be true, or because you've examined the data which underpins that statement, found it to be lacking, and can produce better, more verifiable data which shows that it isn't true and something else is our "National Dish"?

Have you started out, for example, with a good definition of "National Dish"?

 

[pete01]

I love a nice chicken tikka me

Or even better a Birmingham chicken Balti

 

[Koolpc]

Fish and chips is the national dish....or Marrow bone.

 

[Jurassicspark]

I love a nice chicken tikka me

Or even better a Birmingham chicken Balti

Mate do you eat bombay mix?

 

[pete01]

Mate do you eat bombay mix?

Yeah love it, not had it for a while...

 

[blup]

Invented in Brum by Brits makes it a national dish or a contender. Allez les rosbifs

 

[Odds]

Has to be shepherds pie, surely.

Freshly killed English lamb buried beneath a fluffy mound of creamy potato with an assortment of veggies, smothered in grated Cheddar cheese and grilled to a toasty brown hue. Delicious and nutricious.

 

[morqthana]

Freshly killed English lamb buried beneath a fluffy mound of creamy potato with an assortment of veggies, smothered in grated Cheddar cheese and grilled to a toasty brown hue. Delicious and nutricious.

Until the day you make it with chunks of left-over roast lamb (shoulder is best), after which you'll never go back to using mince.

But for those who still do, here's a tip.

Brown the meat the day before, and strain with a sieve over a bowl. Put the meat in a container in the fridge, ditto the juices in the smallest bowl they will fit in (makes the next step easier).

When you're ready to make the pie the next day, take the solid layer of fat off the top of the stuff in the bowl. Put the jellied juices back into the meat, use the fat in the mashed potato. [All this assumes that at breakfast you resisted the temptation to have toast with lamb dripping.]

And re "an assortment of veggies" - a nice amount of chopped dried black olives (about 6 per portion) is excellent. Do use the dried ones, though, not the plump ones in brine, e.g.

 

[opps]

As an aside, a gorgeous woman in my local recently asked me if we could go for a meal, and, or a game of pool. I love pool and then said "why not go for a curry after" she looked me in the eye and said, I am Indian "why would I want to go for a curry?"... Personally, I fecking love curry...

Masla though? Super bland. Reminds me of the episode of Goodness Gracious me when they go for an English and insist on the most bland food (a play on English people in Indian restaurants).

 

[Elsa TLC]

Invented in Brum by Brits makes it a national dish or a contender. Allez les rosbifs

I thought it was invented in Glasgow!

 

[ericmark]

Interesting question, suppose it must be something native to the UK, so no tomatoes, or potatoes, but what did we eat before 1586?

And did it depend on social standing? And was there a national dish before the railways? So much food was transported on the railways, that the whole way of life changed as a result. And some items have to be from an area to have a name, and some items it is how not where it is made, so Cheddar Cheese can be made anywhere, but not Cheshire Cheese, and some cheeses were made from sheep milk, not cows, and some cows are named because that's where they came from.

But if wild boar, was considered as an English dish, today it would be hard to get the wild boar to start with, forest of dean maybe, but cheese on toast has been claimed as a Welsh dish, but try getting a definitive recipe for it, some want egg in it, some want mustard, and the Sunday meal was a Sunday meal as we could not afford a meal like that every day.

But some of the British foodstuff is known worldwide, everyone knows what Spam is.

But, corned beef came in the main from South America, until we had a bit of a conflict, not a war, just a conflict! And our eating habits have been traditionally altered by the Italians, they brought Lions to the UK, and things like olive oil, what did the Romans do for us?

 

[morqthana]

But some of the British foodstuff is known worldwide, everyone knows what Spam is.

It's American.

 

[ericmark]

It's American.

But Americans came from UK So was Morse an American or Scottish invention? Scotland produced loads of inventors, but most did not remain in Scotland, fax may have been invented by a Scotsman, but the first working example was in France. Is IPA English?

 

[morqthana]

And some items have to be from an area to have a name, and some items it is how not where it is made, so Cheddar Cheese can be made anywhere, but not Cheshire Cheese

Stilton may not be made in Stilton, despite the fact that in the 18th century the chances of it becoming known for a cheese that was only sold there and made nowhere near by are vanishingly small.

Nor, in a display of wilful ignorance, may it be made from raw milk, it must be pasteurised, despite the fact that it would have to have originally been made with raw milk for hundreds of years.