Britain formally recognises Palestinian state

[MNW67]

I thought everybody knew about Himmy? He is a DIYNOT celebrity! Writes hundreds of posts in a couple of weeks about how illegal immigrants are not really illegal and then disappears, only to come back some time later under a different name and do it all again. I think he has RCD.

What is RCD?

 

[Notch7]

and then disappears, only to come back some time later under a different name

thats what youve done.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund is a financial program operated by the Palestinian Authority (PA). It operates through two main channels: The Foundation for the Care of the Families of Martyrs that provides monthly financial support to the families of Palestinians who were killed, injured, or detained in connection with acts of violence against Israelis; and the Prisoners Fund that delivers payments to Palestinians currently held in Israeli prisons.[1][2][3] As of 2018, the stipends amounted to $330 million, or 7% of the PA's annual budget.

Critics often call the fund "pay for slay" and blame the payments for "encouraging terrorism". In 2007, the World Bank argued that the fund did "not seem justified from a welfare or fiscal perspective."

By 2014, mounting criticism of the payments led to the PA transferring management of the Martyrs Fund to the Palestinian Detainees and Ex-Detainees Affairs Commission, of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), which now disburses the government-funding to recipients and their families. On 10 February 2025, PA president Mahmoud Abbas signed a decree to end the Martyrs Fund to provide stipends based on financial need.

That's what I said.
In connection with acts of violence against Israelis, as in defence of the West Bank or Palestinians, from Israeli attacks.
Not as your original claim was:

Let's also remember that among Starmer's conditions for recognising a Palestinian State are that the Governing body in Gaza (PA) destroy childrens textbooks promoting Israeli hatred and that the PA stop paying stipends to Palestinians or their families because they have killed an Israeli.

Your claim is so obviously false because the Martyr's Fund was phased out in February 2025. Starmer is either out of date, or your claim is intenional disinformation.
I suspect the latter.
It's no different to the Israeli "Fallen Soldiers Family Law" which pays IDF members for being killed. Which is still active.
UK also has a similar fund (AFCS and other funds).
There's another PA fund called the Prisoners Fund, which pays a stipend to families of the Palestinians held prisoner in Israel.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Then show some.

Warning. The document linked to in this post contains some distressing information.

GENEVA - Israel has increasingly employed sexual, reproductive and other forms of gender-based violence against Palestinians as part of a broader effort to undermine their right to self-determination and carried out genocidal acts through the systematic destruction of sexual and reproductive healthcare facilities, according to a new report issued today by the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and Israel.

The report documents a broad range of violations perpetrated against Palestinian women, men, girls and boys across the Occupied Palestinian Territory since 7 October 2023 that constitutes a major element in the ill-treatment of Palestinians and are part of the unlawful occupation and persecution of Palestinians as a group.
...The Commission found an increasing proportion of female fatalities in Gaza, which have occurred at an unprecedented scale as a result of an Israeli strategy of deliberately targeting residential buildings and using heavy explosives in densely populated areas. The Commission also documented cases in which women and girls of all ages, including maternity patients, were targeted - acts that constitute the crime against humanity of murder and the war crime of wilful killing.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/03/more-human-can-bear-israels-systematic-use-sexual-reproductive-and-other

I suggest you read the whole document, then reconsider your support for Israel's violence against Palestinian women and children.
Warning. It contains some distressing information.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Yeah, that follows. Not.

Typical of fillyboy's resort to the absurd.

 

[Munroast]

What is RCD?

(Residual Current Device) - presumably Himmy detects leakage and trips up a lot

a while ago I told someone I had to go to the surgery and have an EGR - I wonder if they thought I had a problem with a windy bottom

 

[Knave of Hearts]

The people of Israel, are not the problem.

The problem is the Netanyahu regime and the people like you who spread their propaganda.

Some of the IDF, and maybe some Israeli medical practitioners are equally culpable of genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Medical complicity in deaths or ill-treatment of detainees would leave a dark stain on the medical profession in Israel. We therefore call on the Israeli authorities and medical institutions and associations to investigate any allegations of complicity of doctors and other medical staff in torture and ill-treatment.

Action must be taken on alleged complicity of Israeli doctors in torture

Israeli physicians risk becoming, or may already be, complicit in torture and ill-treatment of detained Palestinians.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Knave of Hearts]

I thought everybody knew about Himmy? He is a DIYNOT celebrity! Writes hundreds of posts in a couple of weeks about how illegal immigrants are not really illegal and then disappears, only to come back some time later under a different name and do it all again. I think he has RCD.

I suspect he enjoys his fame. it seems to have permeated most these threads.

INFAMY! INFAMY!

THEY'VE ALL GOT IT IN FOR ME!


So he's quite correct: "Writes hundreds of posts in a couple of weeks about how illegal immigrants are not really illegal"?

 

[Knave of Hearts]

thats what youve done.

Yeah, but he doesn't enjoy the same level of fame as himmy.

 

[Highway Man]

Yeah, but he doesn't enjoy the same level of fame as himmy.

More ridicule than fame

 

[fillyboy]

our claim is so obviously false because the Martyr's Fund was phased out in February 2025. Starmer is either out of date, or your claim is intenional disinformation.
I suspect the latter.
It's no different to the Israeli "Fallen Soldiers Family Law" which pays IDF members for being killed. Which is still active.
UK also has a similar fund (AFCS and other funds).
There's another PA fund called the Prisoners Fund, which pays a stipend to families of the Palestinians held prisoner in Israel.

I doubt Starmer is out of date, although 'the martyrs fund' might have been phased out in February the transfer of money hasn't, it's simply been given another name and is administered by a third party.
Starmers up to speed on what the PA are allowing in school textbooks encouraging children toward violence.
It's why Starmer has said UK will not open up an Embassy in East Jerusalem unless these conditions are met.

Change of school syllabus and an end of 'pay to slay'.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

I doubt Starmer is out of date, although 'the martyrs fund' might have been phased out in February the transfer of money hasn't, it's simply been given another name and is administered by a third party.

It's just like the Israeli, and the UK, and probably all other country's funds, paying the families for their sacrifice.

Starmers up to speed on what the PA are allowing in school textbooks encouraging children toward violence.
It's why Starmer has said UK will not open up an Embassy in East Jerusalem unless these conditions are met.

Change of school syllabus and an end of 'pay to slay'.

Where's your source of the information on the school books. I'm still waiting.
You claimed it was a precondition of recognising the state of Palestine. I see you are now pivoting to a different claim.

I've already debunked your claim about the Martyr's Fund.

 

[fillyboy]

I've already debunked your claim about the Martyr's Fund.

See the Jews haters thread

Starmer to demand Palestinian Authority stops ‘pay to slay’ policy

Sir Keir Starmer will tell Palestinian officials they must stop paying the families of terrorists before Britain can open full diplomatic relations.

www.yahoo.com

Starmer to demand Palestinian Authority stops ‘pay to slay’ policy​

Joe Barnes
Tue, September 23, 2025 at 9:49 AM GMT+1
6 min read

Sir Keir Starmer will tell Palestinian officials they must stop paying the families of terrorists before Britain can open full diplomatic relations.

The Prime Minister is facing a backlash over his decision to formally recognise Palestine, a move that threatens ties with Israel and the US.

Sir Keir will now insist that the Palestinian Authority ends its “pay to slay” policy of handing out stipends to the families of “martyrs” killed or detained for attacks on Israelis.

The demand was part of a series of required reforms before any two-state solution is finalised, sources said.

The plan includes an overhaul of school textbooks deemed anti-Semitic and fresh elections before Britain opens a Palestinian embassy in east Jerusalem or signs international treaties.

On Monday Israel was considering closing French consulates in Jerusalem in retaliation for Emmanuel Macron recognising Palestine as a state at the United Nations. Sources said Israel was focusing its retribution on France for now, which has been leading the international effort.

Pro-Palestine protests spread to Italy on Monday, after Giorgia Meloni refused to follow France, Britain and others in recognising the occupied territories.

Sir Keir’s move, Britain’s biggest foreign policy shift in decades, was condemned by the United States and the families of Israeli hostages. Donald Trump is expected to air his concerns at his UN speech on Tuesday.

 

[Notch7]

I doubt Starmer is out of date, although 'the martyrs fund' might have been phased out in February the transfer of money hasn't, it's simply been given another name and is administered by a third party.
Starmers up to speed on what the PA are allowing in school textbooks encouraging children toward violence.
It's why Starmer has said UK will not open up an Embassy in East Jerusalem unless these conditions are met.

Change of school syllabus and an end of 'pay to slay'.

so you dont like education to be used as a propaganda tool

the Trump administration is doing that
Turning Point is doing that

 

[fillyboy]

You claimed it was a precondition of recognising the state of Palestine. I see you are now pivoting to a different claim.

Full diplomatics relations will not be opened until the conditions are met. Starmers not completely, that's why the UK recognition is 'formal' rather than 'official'.