building/ upgrade a small road track

[muckington]

Greetings!

I have about 100 yards of track that is a bit slippy (at the moment) for a wagon to drive over it. As I need a wagon in there soon, I want to lay down some kind of hard core on top of the surface that will stop the wagon and trailer slipping. BTW the ground is nearly level (so no hill)

What kind of gravel can I get away with (cost wise!) And how much will I need and where can I buy it from, and who will deliver it?

Thanks

 

[Wayners]

Get a lorry load of crushed concrete. I think 20 ton is the biggest but see what's available.
Buy it from local gravel yard.
They will drop piles along track and you spread out by hand.
If you don't want to do it get ground local ground workers.

Any type one gravel will do but crushed concrete is cheapest.

 

[stevie888]

What is the aim? What kind of wagon: transit' 40 foot artic? What's the ground like? How straight is the run (width required?)

For any sort of ongoing access you need to be thinking about digging out topsoil at least, Terram then 150 or so of crush.

Even for a one off less than 50 is really going to do nothing very much, so we're looking ball park say 100m x 3m x .05m so 15cube solid, so 2 20 tonne loads (and upwards)

You don't need type 1 graded material for this: straight crushed concrete will be fine but you may find crushed hardcore available and likely to be cheaper still. Road planings are another possible.

Talk to demolition companies: they often crush on site and have material available at all kinds of different locations. Local farmers often know sources of cheap material as they're often doing tracks and standings.

 

[muckington]

Get a lorry load of crushed concrete. I think 20 ton is the biggest but see what's available.

What is the smallest lorry load they do?

Buy it from local gravel yard.

Where would you find one of those?

They will drop piles along track and you spread out by hand.

They might get the lorry stuck as it is slippy

If you don't want to do it get ground local ground workers.

Any type one gravel will do but crushed concrete is cheapest.

People where saying type 2. I do not know the diffarance! what is the differance?
Is crushed concrete not type one of differant? how much should it cost?

 

[muckington]

What is the aim? What kind of wagon: transit' 40 foot artic? What's the ground like? How straight is the run (width required?)

To drop off a 45 foot trailer down there. quite wide and quite straight

For any sort of ongoing access you need to be thinking about digging out topsoil at least, Terram then 150 or so of crush.

As there is gas pipes underneith there is no digging allowed!

Even for a one off less than 50 is really going to do nothing very much, so we're looking ball park say 100m x 3m x .05m so 15cube solid, so 2 20 tonne loads (and upwards)

So are you saying 40 tones of hard core for a light spreading of hard core will cover a 100 yard run?

You don't need type 1 graded material for this: straight crushed concrete will be fine but you may find crushed hardcore available and likely to be cheaper still. Road planings are another possible.

So you are saying that crushed concrete is cheaper then type one and crushed hard core is cheaper then crushed concrete?

Talk to demolition companies: they often crush on site and have material available at all kinds of different locations. Local farmers often know sources of cheap material as they're often doing tracks and standings.

Do the demolition companies crush hard core on site?

 

[endecotp]

You could also consider hiring trackway panels. I’ve no idea about the relative cost, but it’s worth checking out if it is only needed temporarily.

 

[stevie888]

For a one off I would just get a local friendly farmer with a big tractor and a dolly to drag the trailer in.

You might need to think about some form of protection for the gas pipes if the trailer is loaded but if there is no restriction on the field in general then you should be ok empty.

 

[Wayners]

You want crushed concrete either type 1 or 2.
Whatever is cheapest.
One is finer than the other.

Just Google nearest gravel merchant and give them a call.
Sometimes it's so cheap to buy like £20 a ton.
A car parking space 4 inches thick is approximately 1 ton.
You will need 20+ tons easy I'd guess just to cover.
When that's bed in over a few months get some more..
When you as for quote give them the area size. They will tell you how much you require.


100m x 3m. At 30mm thick is 13 tons.

I just looked up. That's not enough really.
10 ton will get you a covering though

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

They will drop piles along track and you spread out by hand.
If you don't want to do it get ground local ground workers.

Or hire a Bobcat to spread it yourself.

 

[muckington]

You could also consider hiring trackway panels. I’ve no idea about the relative cost, but it’s worth checking out if it is only needed temporarily.

are they not for cars? ie upto 3.5 tone and not 44 tone

 

[muckington]

For a one off I would just get a local friendly farmer with a big tractor and a dolly to drag the trailer in.

And do you know of any one? Manchester based that is?

 

[muckington]

You want crushed concrete either type 1 or 2.
Whatever is cheapest.
One is finer than the other.

Just Google nearest gravel merchant and give them a call.

And all it show up are builders merchants like Travis Perkins and Jewsos and even B&Q

Sometimes it's so cheap to buy like £20 a ton.

Why 20 tone? how cheap?

A car parking space 4 inches thick is approximately 1 ton.
You will need 20+ tons easy I'd guess just to cover.
When that's bed in over a few months get some more..
When you as for quote give them the area size. They will tell you how much you require.


100m x 3m. At 30mm thick is 13 tons.

I just looked up. That's not enough really.
10 ton will get you a covering though

So you think a 30 tone load would do what I am after?

 

[Murdochcat]

Do you need planning permission for this?