How much do you trust an indicator?

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The term "thug" is a colloquialism, but there are documented cases of MOT testers engaging in serious criminal behaviour, including violence and significant fraud.

Examples of Criminal Conduct
  • Violence and Threats: In a specific case, Thomas Moulds, an MOT mechanic, was jailed for threatening to kill a colleague with a blade and using racial abuse at a Hull MOT centre. He was sentenced to two years and seven months in prison for these and other unrelated assault and harassment charges.
I know him as well.. A well known thug... Next Please...
 
People seem to over use or not use them at all, it’s often linked to make of car. My favour is the 270 degree (turning right) manoeuvre at a roundabout, many drivers either can’t be bothered to cancel the indicator or don’t change it from right to left.
 
Someone I know was advised by his MOT tester to proactively remove the DPF on his van, even though there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. They were touting for the job of getting rid of it, with the promise that it would always pass an MOT despite the emissions then being way too high, just as long as he keeps getting it tested by them.

That's twice recently I've heard of people getting rid of DPFs that have absolutely no issues. Garages are telling people they're a menace that needs to be got rid of as a precaution. I think there's also a false rumour that you get better fuel economy or it goes faster once you chop it out.

We have two diesels with DPFs. Both have just passed 100,000 miles with absolutely no issues at all. Both have exhaust pipes that are still shiny inside. DPFs are a brilliant invention. Some early ones were troublesome, Peugeot/Citroen at least seem to have got it right.

I'd suggest we need the Northern Ireland system - there, MOTs are done at official government centres, not independent dodgy garages. They have no favouritism and don't offer dodgy deals.
 
V. Important to get it right when doing a 360 at a roundabout though.
You need to expect others to pull out on you when doing this, especially at a mini roundabout. Slow down to give people time to react and cover the brake.

I almost pulled out on someone doing this. Totally unexpected, and did it at really high speed, oblivious to the risk.
 
Someone I know was advised by his MOT tester to proactively remove the DPF on his van, even though there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. They were touting for the job of getting rid of it, with the promise that it would always pass an MOT despite the emissions then being way too high, just as long as he keeps getting it tested by them.

That's twice recently I've heard of people getting rid of DPFs that have absolutely no issues. Garages are telling people they're a menace that needs to be got rid of as a precaution. I think there's also a false rumour that you get better fuel economy or it goes faster once you chop it out.

We have two diesels with DPFs. Both have just passed 100,000 miles with absolutely no issues at all. Both have exhaust pipes that are still shiny inside. DPFs are a brilliant invention. Some early ones were troublesome, Peugeot/Citroen at least seem to have got it right.

I'd suggest we need the Northern Ireland system - there, MOTs are done at official government centres, not independent dodgy garages. They have no favouritism and don't offer dodgy deals.
I had a 2008 Seat Leon 1.9 TDi from new. Had to let it go earlier this year :(

It had just under 100k on the clock. For the last few years I used it in exactly the way you're advised not to use diesels. Mainly short journeys due to WFH and only doing a few thousand miles per year.

In all the years I owned the car, the DPF light came on once (for a few secs) a few months before I let the car go. Like you, never had any issues.

I've read that the specific type of engine in my car was considered a good, robust diesel. I've not researched whether this is true or not, however as I say it served me well and I only got rid of the car due to bodywork, not the engine.

I've also read that modern day diesels aren't a patch on older ones, due to things like having to meet certain environmental criteria coupled with manufacturers building ever more to a budget.
 
You need to expect others to pull out on you when doing this, especially at a mini roundabout. Slow down to give people time to react and cover the brake.

Oh I do. (Did?)

It's not a manoeuvre I do very often (can't remember the last time) as it does annoy people. In fact it's been so long it might be true to say I don't do it any more. And I've got no plans to take up convoy driving.


I almost pulled out on someone doing this. Totally unexpected, and did it at really high speed, oblivious to the risk.

Yup.

And if there'd been a collision, guess who would have been to blame?
 
Someone I know was advised by his MOT tester to proactively remove the DPF on his van, even though there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. They were touting for the job of getting rid of it, with the promise that it would always pass an MOT despite the emissions then being way too high, just as long as he keeps getting it tested by them.

That's twice recently I've heard of people getting rid of DPFs that have absolutely no issues. Garages are telling people they're a menace that needs to be got rid of as a precaution. I think there's also a false rumour that you get better fuel economy or it goes faster once you chop it out.

We have two diesels with DPFs. Both have just passed 100,000 miles with absolutely no issues at all. Both have exhaust pipes that are still shiny inside. DPFs are a brilliant invention. Some early ones were troublesome, Peugeot/Citroen at least seem to have got it right.

I'd suggest we need the Northern Ireland system - there, MOTs are done at official government centres, not independent dodgy garages. They have no favouritism and don't offer dodgy deals.
No bias in there

No understanding of dpfs either
 
No information, just as usual.

Go on then... tell me what I don't understand about a DPF. My understanding is that it's a Filter, which removes the Particulates that result from burning Diesel.

From your posting record, I'm going to guess you're going to try and pretend that there's something mysterious and complicated that you're keeping secret and can't tell anyone about, implying you know something nobody else does, all while providing absolutely no useful information?
 
No information, just as usual.

Go on then... tell me what I don't understand about a DPF. My understanding is that it's a Filter, which removes the Particulates that result from burning Diesel.
And it WILL clog up
From your posting record, I'm going to guess you're going to try and pretend that there's something mysterious and complicated that you're keeping secret and can't tell anyone about, implying you know something nobody else does, all while providing absolutely no useful information?
No. But probably know more about vehicles and mots than you obviously do
 
Hilarious. Preserving your tiny bit of knowledge that makes you feel special.

Everyone and his dog knows how a DPF works, and that diesels haven't been recommended for only short journeys for well over a decade.

If you use them as intended they're hassle-free.

Ours manages to regenerate by the time I've reached the end of my long rolling driveway through scenic countryside, ready for driving through the streets and houses where the riff-raff live.
 
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