Fuse box and Washer in same room
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Quite So
But the BCs around here will refuse to issue completion certs without ventilation requirements met. Woking are especially pedantic about fire alarms too. The problem the uk has is there is too much vagueness at the centre so this emanates out wards and hence the plethora of interpretations
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This is related to gas though?
Can you clarify why building control would need to approve this?
I’m not planing on applying to BC…
It is. However, EFLI asked "where did you see this" and I suggested that (since no such reg relating to water/pipes exists, he might guess that someone had seen the material I quoted about gas pipework and had (incorrectly) extrapolated to water/pipes from that!
In passing, what it says (apparently from BS7689) about gas pipes seems (at least, to me) to be a little bizarre, in that it 'allows' switches and sockets (which can result in sparks and arcs) to be four times close to gas pipes than other things.
Another seemingly odd thing is that, presuming the 'idea' is to avoid 'live' electrical things coming into contact with gas papers, is that the rules/recommendations relating to separation distances exist alongside the requirement (per BS7671) for the gas pipework to be 'main bonded' to the property's'earthing' system. In the case of a TN-C-S electrical installation ("PME"), under certain fault conditions that 'earthing system', and hence any bonded gas pipework, can have a high electrical voltage (relative to 'true earth').
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Keep it like that. Extra fan not needed.
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There are distances in 7671 that you must adhere to and those are in the gas regs too.
When we had a new gas fire put in in the lounge, I dragged a new feed in for the lighting. They were very careful to make sure the cable was the minimum distance from the gas pipe.
But as far as the 300 that was mentioned, I think that would be referring to the building regs recommendation of distance between sink/ hob and outlet/ switch .
Yes but, as has been said, the question was about water pipes, not gas ones. I merely suggested that whoever came up with the suggestion about regs regarding water pipes may have read what the OSG says (citing gas regs) about gas ones and 'got themselves confused' by that
What "Building Regs Recommendation" would you be referring to?
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I can't find my latest 17th Edition OSG, but there was something in there about building regs requiring minimum and maximum heights and also there was mention of a 300mm minimum distance.
Hmmm. Well, the OSG is the OSG, and quite often has a mind of its own, and I think the 'minimum and maximum heights' came from Approved Doc M (not the actual Building Regs), didn't it? - and I'm not sure about this 300mm business (although I don't recall having seen it in any actual 'regs'.
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No...as you say, the OSG had/ has stuff that in it that was in the regs but is no longer (like the 2m thing about cooker isolators) and the heights may be Doc M, but in the OSG, it says "building regulations".
But FWIW, I personally think it's sensible not to have a socket or switch too close to a sink or hob, in the same way as it's sensible not to put CCUs above a cooker top or hob. I've seen both done lots of times.
But FWIW, I personally think it's sensible not to have a socket or switch too close to a sink or hob, in the same way as it's sensible not to put CCUs above a cooker top or hob. I've seen both done lots of times.
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Had to dig for this.
I have print out of it from the very beginning of Part P.
It is just guidance from Paul Cook, but I'm sure it made its way into the OSG at some point.
But yes, you're right, it was never in 7671.
Some things in 7671 are not specific. They are left to the readers interpretation.
part-p-special-locations-and-kitchens.pdf https://share.google/p8TRYNaWS8ZFWSu8b
I have print out of it from the very beginning of Part P.
It is just guidance from Paul Cook, but I'm sure it made its way into the OSG at some point.
But yes, you're right, it was never in 7671.
Some things in 7671 are not specific. They are left to the readers interpretation.
part-p-special-locations-and-kitchens.pdf https://share.google/p8TRYNaWS8ZFWSu8b
Paul Cook says (in your link)
"Kitchens are not a special location as far as
BS 7671 is concerned but they are special as
far as Part P is concerned."
But that is not what Part P says.
Is there any point discussing it?
Someone once wrote some rubbish and it is still on the internet.
Someone once wrote some rubbish and it is still on the internet.
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