Ginger men who now identifies as a woman.

[King Billy]

If its true how can governments not admit it?

I'll be honest I'd never heard of it until you mentioned it.....(theres some ammo for ya)

So arguments fomenting discrimination, hatred and potential violence against transpeople, and transwomen in particular, have no basis on moral, scientific, or legal grounds?

 

[pete01]

They want to use the toilet according to their gender.
What law are they breaking by using the women's toilets?

If they are a man? Not sure what law but im a man and I wouldn't use the womens.

 

[King Billy]

If they are a man? Not sure what law but im a man and I wouldn't use the womens.

Because you don't want to. You feel more comfortable using the men's.
There's nothing wrong with that. Why do you insist others should not use the toilets they are most comfortable using?

BTW, there is no law that stops men using women's or women using men's toilets.
It's a TERF activist campaign against transgender people, including the pyrrhic Supreme Court judgement.
It applies only in situations governed by the Equalities Act 2010.

 

[Highway Man]

Because you don't want to. You feel more comfortable using the men's.
There's nothing wrong with that. Why do you insist others should not use the toilets they are most comfortable using?

BTW, there is no law that stops men using women's or women using men's toilets.
It's a TERF activist campaign against transgender people, including the pyrrhic Supreme Court judgement.
It applies only in situations governed by the Equalities Act 2010.

Nonsense, I already posted the law to you regards this, you didn't accept it but that isn't really surprising. You are simply trolling.

 

[King Billy]

Nonsense, I already posted the law to you regards this, you didn't accept it but that isn't really surprising. You are simply trolling.

Remind me? When, where?
I remember disputing, disproving and refuting your supposed law.

Let's see who is trolling.

 

[Highway Man]

Remind me? When, where?
I remember disputing, disproving and refuting your supposed law.

Let's see who is trolling.

 

[King Billy]

Obviously, you're the troll.
You claim to have presented a law that states what you claim it states, but when asked to produce the post, you disappear in a cloud of virtual dust.

 

[JohnD]

Why do you insist others should not use the toilets they are most comfortable using?

Now there's an interesting question.

Let's suppose a woman, at work as a nurse, in the middle of the night, has an unexpectedly heavy period and wants to go to the women's changing room, where she feels most comfortable, and left her bag, to remove and change her clothes and underwear, and clean up.

She feels most comfortable in a reserved women's room. Not a man's room, or a multisex room.

Let's suppose a man, we'll call him Dr Uptonogood, likes going into the women's changing room wearing a bra under his overalls, and gets into a row with her when she tells him it is a women's room, and he should not be there, because he is a man.

Does the man have more right to use the women's changing room, than the woman?

He and his supporters used to say yes.

 

[King Billy]

Now there's an interesting question.

Let's suppose a woman, at work as a nurse, in the middle of the night, has an unexpectedly heavy period and wants to go to the women's changing room, where she feels most comfortable, and left her bag, to remove and change her clothes and underwear, and clean up.

She feels most comfortable in a reserved women's room. Not a man's room, or a multisex room.

Let's suppose a man, we'll call him Dr Uptonogood, likes going into the women's changing room wearing a bra under his overalls, and gets into a row with her when she tells him it is a women's room, and he should not be there, because he is a man.

Does the man have more right to use the women's changing room, than the woman?

He and his supporters used to say yes.

She and her employers recognised her as a woman. She had the right to use the women's changing rooms.

A transgender doctor had the right to use a female changing room under a health board's equality and diversity policy, an employment tribunal has heard.

Dr Upton was found not have acted unlawfully. So she had every right to use that room.
In that case the complainant was aa Trump supporter and supported his ideology.
Therefore it's reasonable to accept that she was an TERFactivist, who strive to demonise transgender people. The typical comments on here justify that claim.

The transwomen in that case was cleared of all accusations.

But your attempt to demonise transgender people, transwomen in particular does not go unnoticed: "we'll call him Dr Uptonogood,"

Your TERF activism is fomenting hatred, discrimination and potentially violence against transgender people.
It's irrational and illogical because you refuse to accept that they exist.

 

[Highway Man]

Obviously, you're the troll.
You claim to have presented a law that states what you claim it states, but when asked to produce the post, you disappear in a cloud of virtual dust.

Funny isn't it how you can drag up posts from various dates and differet threads yet you can recall disagreeing with the law that I presented and now want me to find something that you remember. Don't make me laugh.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Now there's an interesting question.

Let's suppose a woman, at work as a nurse, in the middle of the night, has an unexpectedly heavy period and wants to go to the women's changing room, where she feels most comfortable, and left her bag, to remove and change her clothes and underwear, and clean up.

She feels most comfortable in a reserved women's room. Not a man's room, or a multisex room.

Let's suppose a man, we'll call him Dr Uptonogood, likes going into the women's changing room wearing a bra under his overalls, and gets into a row with her when she tells him it is a women's room, and he should not be there, because he is a man.

Does the man have more right to use the women's changing room, than the woman?

He and his supporters used to say yes.

No. There should be a trans toilet for them to use.

We need this:

Male
Female
Trans

They are neither male nor female. Give 'em their own space and let 'em get on with it.

 

[pete01]

No. There should be a trans toilet for them to use.

We need this:

Male
Female
Trans

They are neither male nor female. Give 'em their own space and let 'em get on with it.

Dont think it would work, what about people who identify as carrots...where they gonna pizz?

 

[JohnD]

She and her employers recognised her as a woman. She had the right to use the women's changing rooms.

Yes, Nurse Pegg is a woman, and has the right to use changing rooms reserved exclusively for women.

However, Dr Upton is a man.

A man does not have the right to access places that are reserved exclusively for women.

The hospital had an obligation to provide facilities exclusively for women, and they wrongly granted Dr Upton, a man, access to them.

Since you refuse to admit that Dr Upton, who is a man, is not a woman, this does not fit into your imaginary world.

A problem you have created for yourself.

You are in a minority in believing that a man is a woman.

Nobody can help you with your false belief.

 

[JohnD]

No. There should be a trans toilet for them to use.

We need this:

Male
Female
Trans

They are neither male nor female. Give 'em their own space and let 'em get on with it.

Actually, most shops, offices, hospitals, public buildings, railway stations, public lavatories, restaurants, pubs and even village halls now have accessible facilities that are not sex-specific.

So there is a male toilet, a female toilet, and a non specific toilet, which is typically also available for baby changing and for disabled people, whatever their sex.

In such cases, a person who, for example, is a man, and is not entitled to use the women's room, and does not want to use the mens room, can use the non-specific room.

 

[pete01]

Actually, most shops, offices, hospitals, public buildings, railway stations, public lavatories, restaurants, pubs and even village halls now have accessible facilities that are not sex-specific.

So there is a male toilet, a female toilet, and a non specific toilet, which is typically also available for baby changing and for disabled people, whatever their sex.

In such cases, a person who, for example, is a man, and is not entitled to use the women's room, and does not want to use the mens room, can use the non-specific room.

Doesn't seem right for an able bodied person to use a disabled toilet, not saying you can't.