Roads that give cyclists priority.

[noseall]

Isn't that rather a different matter?

No.

 

[fixitflav]

No.

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Roads that give cyclists priority.​

You
Amazon squirreling their profits away overseas so they pay as little UK tax as possible.

are connected are they?

 

[securespark]

You got it.

Our taxes all go into one pot, our of which roads are built and maintained.

There is no longer a specific Road Tax.

 

[securespark]

Not with you. Vehicle owners pay ££ that non vehicle owners don't, whatever you call it.

Have you worked out any reasons why owners of heavy, possibly very heavy maybe polluting vehicles might pay extra taxes that owners of very light bicycles, tricycles etc don't?

 

[fixitflav]

You got it.

Our taxes all go into one pot, our of which roads are built and maintained.

There is no longer a specific Road Tax.

Maybe originally vehicle tax was spent on roads (or was meant to be) but there's not been any pretence that that's the case for many years. As you say, it all goes into one pot. It would be good if Amazon and the like paid more tax, but not specifically for roads. They could as easily be accused of reducing money available for the NHS, defence, education or anything else.

 

[fixitflav]

Have you worked out any reasons why owners of heavy, possibly very heavy maybe polluting vehicles might pay extra taxes that owners of very light bicycles, tricycles etc don't?

I don't need to work it out, they do, as they should. What point are you trying to make? BTW I ride a bike and drive a car.

 

[Brigadier]

Maybe originally vehicle tax was spent on roads (or was meant to be) but there's not been any pretence that that's the case for many years. As you say, it all goes into one pot. It would be good if Amazon and the like paid more tax, but not specifically for roads. They could as easily be accused of reducing money available for the NHS, defence, education or anything else.

As you've brought up the topic of "what it was meant to be", much of our road network "was meant to be" for the use of pedestrians, horses and later, for bicycles.

That much of our road network is not suitable for cars, vans and lorries is evidence of this : these roads were constructed long before the concept of the motor vehicle.

 

[Highway Man]

I watched a prrogram on tv once about the success of the bicycle in Holland, it would be impossible to implement this in the UK or any other developed country with existing road networks. The whole Dutch road network was designed for bicycles with lanes, traffic lights etc from the 1890s, it has evolved over this period so not something that can simply be replicated on their scale. Cars are a secondary mode of transport rather than the primary, we are completely the opposit to this as our road network is designed for motor cars.

 

[motorbiking]

I never understood why a country full of so many bicycles make such cr@p ones.

It is a very flat country however.

 

[Highway Man]

I never understood why a country full of so many bicycles make such cr@p ones.

It is a very flat country however.

If you have a crap bike, nobody will want to pinch it.

 

[motorbiking]

or ride it

 

[Brigadier]

I never understood why a country full of so many bicycles make such cr@p ones.

It is a very flat country however.

Headwinds care not for gradients.
In fact, lack of hills ensures no hiding place.

 

[Brigadier]

I watched a prrogram on tv once about the success of the bicycle in Holland, it would be impossible to implement this in the UK or any other developed country with existing road networks. The whole Dutch road network was designed for bicycles with lanes, traffic lights etc from the 1890s, it has evolved over this period so not something that can simply be replicated on their scale. Cars are a secondary mode of transport rather than the primary, we are completely the opposit to this as our road network is designed for motor cars.

If I was in charge, a major project I would push through would be the creation of a dedicated cycle network connecting pretty much every village upwards.

Metalled and drained just like a typical road, but only for cycles.

Would take millions of miles of journeys that would otherwise be by car off the roads.

And would benefit the health of the nation.

 

[Highway Man]

If I was in charge, a major project I would push through would be the creation of a dedicated cycle network connecting pretty much every village upwards.

Metalled and drained just like a typical road, but only for cycles.

Would take millions of miles of journeys that would otherwise be by car off the roads.

And would benefit the health of the nation.

I am currently working on a new by pass through the outskirts of beverley and connecting motorways, we have installed some pretty top notch cycle lanes at the side of it which are iluminated and tarmac to compliment the road, however this is a completely new road so was easier to do, to try this on existing roads is near on impossible, hence utilising paths to use as cycle tracks.

 

[Odds]

Headwinds care not for gradients.
In fact, lack of hills ensures no hiding place.

Truly - best reason to avoid Norfolk and Suffolk: too flat for comfort.
Endless roads with unchanging landscape. The real challenge is to stay awake.