Wireless net

[Softus]

At the very least it's anti-social to do it without permission.

If you use bandwidth that costs your neighbour money, then it could be viewed as theft, otherwise I can't see anything illegal about it.

 

[megawatt]

Can't you work some of this out for yourself

1. The laptop is secondhand and may have been on the net under it's prior owner.
2. The sale to you would be traceable, therefore the mac address to you is traceable.
3. If you bought the laptop from new many manufacturers are now keeping records of mac addresses to machine serial numbers (fight against terror driven I guess) and many retailers are starting to hold serial numbers against customer credit card details (some even print the serial number of the PC on the till receipt).

Police can (and regularly do) trace equipment in this way.

Any clearer?

MW

 

[clf-gas]

I cant see anything wrong(blind emoticon) as long as I dont up ther download limit

 

[clf-gas]

Can't you work some of this out for yourself

1. The laptop is secondhand and may have been on the net under it's prior owner.
2. The sale to you would be traceable, therefore the mac address to you is traceable.
3. If you bought the laptop from new many manufacturers are now keeping records of mac addresses to machine serial numbers (fight against terror driven I guess) and many retailers are starting to hold serial numbers against customer credit card details (some even print the serial number of the PC on the till receipt).

Police can (and regularly do) trace equipment in this way.

Any clearer?

MW

1, so what, it was purchased at a computer fair, cash no questions.

2, Again no details submitted

 

[Steve]

One of my friends once charged his neighbours, to let them have his network keys and use his secure connection. Back when broadband was expensive

 

[clf-gas]

Broadband is virtually free now crafty, well it is here

 

[megawatt]

Someone's already mentioned I think the computer misuse act 1990.

Bottom line is ... If you're caught (by whatever means CLF ) you will be prosecuted.

 

[Softus]

Section one under the computer misuse act 1990

...which says:

A person is guilty of an offence if—

(a) he causes a computer to perform any function with intent to secure access to any program or data held in any computer;

I don't see how a connection to a wireless access point with the intention of accessing the Internet can be an offence under Section 1 above.

 

[clf-gas]

Section one under the computer misuse act 1990

...which says:

A person is guilty of an offence if—

(a) he causes a computer to perform any function with intent to secure access to any program or data held in any computer;

I don't see how a connection to a wireless access point with the intention of accessing the Internet can be an offence under Section 1 above.

Nor do I big fella, its tantermount to using someones aerial is it not. and that aint illegal

 

[megawatt]

Quote it all Softy boy ...
Unauthorised access to computer material (1) A person is guilty of an offence if—
(a) he causes a computer to perform any function with intent to secure access to any program or data held in any computer;
(b) the access he intends to secure is unauthorised; and
(c) he knows at the time when he causes the computer to perform the function that that is the case.
(2) The intent a person has to have to commit an offence under this section need not be directed at—
(a) any particular program or data;
(b) a program or data of any particular kind; or
(c) a program or data held in any particular computer.

Connecting to the internet in an unauthorised manner to access this site (certainly a program and data) is clearly a breach of (a) & (b).
You know at the time that you're not supposed to be doing it so (c) applies.
All pretty well quantified by section 2.

This act is what all unauthorised system access prosecutions are brought under.

I know we've had some differences of opinion over legal issues S but surely this one couldn't be clearer

 

[clf-gas]

MW, I aint accessing his comp to gain net, nor am I using his progragm, only gaining access like using as an aerial

 

[megawatt]

Nor do I big fella, its tantermount to using someones aerial is it not. and that aint illegal

Hardly the same thing CLF and I'm sure even you know that.

It seems to me that you're intent on using your neighbours internet connection and just want everyone to tell you that its okay.

Do what you think is right and accept the consequences

 

[Softus]

Quote it all

I quoted the salient part of Section 1, which is the section that was referenced by Adam_151.

I saw, and see, no need to quote anything other than paragraph (a), because the action fails that first test.

Connecting to the internet in an unauthorised manner to access this site (certainly a program and data) is clearly a breach of (a) & (b).

No more clearly that accessing the site via one's own network.

You know at the time that you're not supposed to be doing it so (c) applies.

But (a) and (b) didn't apply, and paragraph (b) is following by the word "and". At the very least, the Act is ambiguous.

All pretty well quantified by section 2.

...which wasn't referenced by Adam_151.

This act is what all unauthorised system access prosecutions are brought under.

If you say so. I haven't read the judgements for all unauthorised system access prosecutions, so I wouldn't know.

I know we've had some differences of opinion over legal issues S but surely this one couldn't be clearer

I don't see what this topic has to do with any other previous topic, but if you think it's clear cut then I don't know why you've made it appear so muddled.

 

[clf-gas]

Nor do I big fella, its tantermount to using someones aerial is it not. and that aint illegal

Hardly the same thing CLF and I'm sure even you know that.

It seems to me that you're intent on using your neighbours internet connection and just want everyone to tell you that its okay.

Do what you think is right and accept the consequences

MW. I aint using it nor am I going too, just thinking, lets say I was working on some ones boiler without the MI`s and needed them, I switch on laptop and find an unprotected wireless access, I download the MI`s at no cost to the owner of said wireless access, this could be said to be wrong but it aint costing nobody any extra is it

FREE WIRELESS FOR EVERYONE

 

[megawatt]

You ain't drawing me into your rambling nonsense Softone save it for someone who has time for it.