Spain biting the energy bullet.

You're drifting off in known knowns and unknown unknowns. I remember sitting in class in the mid seventies and being told that there absolutely no way that there will be any oil by the year 2000.

Now strangely enough I distinctly remember filling my car twice weekly since 1987 to today with barley a hiccup.

Of course oil will get more expensive again. I believe I stated that way back but that doesn't mean it's running out. Gold isn't running out but the price has gone up periodically since it was first discovered. Partly because it has a value but predominately because it has a perceived value. (oil is the opposite but affected none the less...)

The De-Beers have held diamond value way beyond it's real value by hyping it's perceived value. There are loads and loads of diamonds sitting around in vaults but De-Beers won't release them as it would flood and drive the market down..Champange is the same, It's sparkling wine and there are cellars full of the stuff going moldy but they won't release it as it affects the market.

OPEC wouldn't turn the tap up primarily because they felt there really wasn't the demand. but the speculators drove the market clutching on to any accident, tropical storm, ship wreck and uprising as justification for their ramping.

World war, famine and alike will ensure world oil supplies won't run out for a good time yet..

Sleep easy

Cheers

Richard
 
Supply can't be increased and even if it could we have no new refineries to process it.

That is a fact, and one that few disagree with.

Now tell me where all that new oil is.

Tell me how we are going to supply the likes of China and India as their economies grow.

Until you can do that - you aren't doing very well are you Richard. :lol:
 
Supply can't be increased and even if it could we have no new refineries to process it.

That is a fact, and one that few disagree with.

Now tell me where all that new oil is.

Tell me how we are going to supply the likes of China and India as their economies grow.

Until you can do that - you aren't doing very well are you Richard. :lol:

Again you're asking me to predict the future. It's all unknown unknown stuff. I couldn't see where the oil was going to come from when my teacher said all the perceived wisdom forecasts oil to run out by 2000, Now whilst that may have been the state of the art forecasting wise it certainly proved wide of the mark as regards accuracy.

The major players avoided high risk speculating in the '80's due to low yields. Now we are perhaps paying for their hesitancy. So be it. I certainly didn't stump up $10b to go looking for oil in the Gulf of Mexico or wherever. However when someone did, they found oil. That's how it works.

So by asking me "where is all the oil?" and not getting a definitive answer is a false premise and as such not a winning argument.

So we are now at the arse end of this and it can only get more tedious, so as the Dragons would say "I'm out!"

Cheers

Richard
 
In other words you don't know. No major discoveries since the 60s. Every year we use an extra 3 million barrels per day so just to stay where we are (assuming that no current wells run dry). That means we've got to find another Nth Sea every year. Or oil from Alberta's bitumen sands - very expensive and will only ever reach a maximum of 3 million barrels per day.

We use 87 million barrels day in and day out - and rising.

Yet (without any proof) you are convinced there's loads of oil around just waiting for someone to drill a hole? FFS. Is that the limit of your knowledge?

You are out alright - way out. Go to bed. :roll:
 
Jeeeez wot a cure for insomnia this boring old fart is, FFS change the record.
 
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