I don't know about Bahco, but I think you don't appreciate that for most people the idea of swapping hard drives is to "technical", and a lot of people are happy with the speed a standard HD offers.
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Then you pay someone the 2 mins it takes to swap it out. You will see an increase in performance and will have saved loads of money.
These are just suggestions, bahco can of course go out and buy a brand new pc if he wishes.
These are just suggestions, bahco can of course go out and buy a brand new pc if he wishes.
A fresh install is a LOT better (in terms of returning performance to original) than trying any/all those (and other) "cleaning" products.
Nope.
The main system files sit in the same partition of the hard drive regardless, what deteriorates over time is as new files are added and deleted, the space between empty segments becomes fragmented, so new files get spread over the hard drive inefficiently, new files can include windows updates and so new system files.
Disc de-fragment fixes this.
The "fresh install" myth exists because earlier defrag tools were not very good, for instance XP does not defrag the registry.
Ccleaner cleans up registry crap that can slow load up's, re-installing does this as well, but it's a completely unnecessary nuclear option. Frankly I would be surprised if it does anything for the OP, as crowded registry are usual only an issue for users that have installed and un-installed legions of programs over a longish period.
malware and viruses can obviously slow down a computer, but frankly these are rare, most malware/virus either significantly ecks up your computer with false virus checker crap, or does little of significance.
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It's also worth going into - Start - Run - and type - msconfig.
This will bring up systems configuration utility (don't worry this bit is easy).
Go to the start-up tab and untick anything you are sure you don't need at start-up.
Various programs like adobe, flash, divx, itunes, graphic card HUDs and printers run programmes on startup. Unticking these will not stop them working, it will mean they only work when you go to use them, this can speed up boot up times
The main system files sit in the same partition of the hard drive regardless, what deteriorates over time is as new files are added and deleted, the space between empty segments becomes fragmented, so new files get spread over the hard drive inefficiently, new files can include windows updates and so new system files.
Disc de-fragment fixes this.
The "fresh install" myth exists because earlier defrag tools were not very good, for instance XP does not defrag the registry.
Ccleaner cleans up registry crap that can slow load up's, re-installing does this as well, but it's a completely unnecessary nuclear option. Frankly I would be surprised if it does anything for the OP, as crowded registry are usual only an issue for users that have installed and un-installed legions of programs over a longish period.
malware and viruses can obviously slow down a computer, but frankly these are rare, most malware/virus either significantly ecks up your computer with false virus checker crap, or does little of significance.
EDIT.
It's also worth going into - Start - Run - and type - msconfig.
This will bring up systems configuration utility (don't worry this bit is easy).
Go to the start-up tab and untick anything you are sure you don't need at start-up.
Various programs like adobe, flash, divx, itunes, graphic card HUDs and printers run programmes on startup. Unticking these will not stop them working, it will mean they only work when you go to use them, this can speed up boot up times
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Failure to agree then 
But that doesn't help the OP who was asking for options.
Will need to wait and see what their thoughts are, ie if they are going new computer route or cleaning of original one.
But that doesn't help the OP who was asking for options.
Will need to wait and see what their thoughts are, ie if they are going new computer route or cleaning of original one.
Sounds good as do some other suggestions but a bit too technical for me
What good makes of desktops are worth a look. I do fancy a change from Dell TBH
For a new, prebuilt PC, generally best to go with Dell or Lenovo. Avoid Acer, Asus (eurgh to both) and instore/own name/supermarket brands.
I'm saying this as a long-time hater of Dell, and I've seen a whole boatload of faulty Lenovo desktops in recent years. Consider how bad the other brands are.
Business range machines from the likes of HP seem pretty reasonable, but I don't get many across my bench.
I'm saying this as a long-time hater of Dell, and I've seen a whole boatload of faulty Lenovo desktops in recent years. Consider how bad the other brands are.
Business range machines from the likes of HP seem pretty reasonable, but I don't get many across my bench.
Bahco
What about Dell do you not like?
I ask as it's good for what it is, and I can't see another low priced computer being significantly better for the same money.
I hate them as they tend to use cases that restrict upgrade options, can't see that would bother you though.
What about Dell do you not like?
I ask as it's good for what it is, and I can't see another low priced computer being significantly better for the same money.
I hate them as they tend to use cases that restrict upgrade options, can't see that would bother you though.
Bought this model a couple of week ago, http://www.misco.co.uk/ProductInfo/ProductInfo?productCode=198612 very pleased so far and does what I want it to do. I have to say a very good service and even got my pc delivered next day. Have to agreed with AronSearle on Dell products
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That's only half the story, there's the registry which gets bigger and bigger, also the security database, which never shrinks, so yes a clean install is better than a simple defrag / cleanup.
That's only half the story, there's the registry which gets bigger and bigger, also the security database, which never shrinks, so yes a clean install is better than a simple defrag / cleanup.
I'm not sure you know what the registry does, it doesn't magically grow.
It's a list of configuration settings, when a programme gets deleted, the registry entry can be left, leaving it doesn't slow down your computer much, it just sit's there doing nothing as there is no programme using it.
XP disc defrag doesn't touch the registry, so new registrys can become spread out over the years, that's where the idea comes from that a clean install is needed, I doubt the OP is using XP in a 4 year old dell, likely Vista which works differently. And even if using XP, you have to be installing and installing lot's of stuff, again likely irrelevant.
And security database, eh? just delete the file, not that it matters, he's not running a server, it won't slow down the computer.
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I have actually done both on the same machine.
I used CC cleaner and Malware Bytes and Super Antispyware to attempt a clean-up on an old machine running XP Pro SP2. Could not boost RAM as I had previously maxed the MB out RAM-wise.
It did not work well, so I DBAN'd the HDD and reinstalled XP. Much better.
So, for me, a fresh install worked better, but I'm not saying that'll be true of everyone.
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