Clocks Change

fixitflav said:
But in the southern hemisphere (Australia, anyway) the hour goes the other way, so the time difference goes from them being 9 hours in front when we're on BST to 11 hours after we put them back.
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Whenever the clocks go back, I do my daydream of living in the southern hemisphere for our winter.

Not an exact mirror of our long summer twilights and dusks though (very little landmass is at our roughly 50 degrees from the equator, but south of it).


OOI, I looked up the longest day in 2024, for Newcastle upon Tyne. 17 hrs 21mins.
Contrast that with Melbourne (Aus) longest 2024 day. 21st December, at 14hrs 43mins
Plus, their twilight is shorter than ours, and their plunge into darkness more abrupt.


Ours truly is the greatest country (in my humble opinion), in so many ways. (y)
 
Diver Fred said:
The clock change is pretty much a world wide occurance. So would the UK stopping the time change be worthwhile?
I think it would cause international trade problems because overseas would have problems with not knowing what the time difference between the UK and the RotW at clock change date(s).
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Its a real mix. Most european countries do as does the US and Australia, but the rest of the world generally doesn't.

As has been mentioned different countries change at different times so it's not even thatuch of an advantage for fellow DST countries. I'm on two projects spread over the world at the moment and mucking about with DST is deeply annoying. We wasted far more time than is sensible trying to work out meeting times that worked for US, UK and Germany for around this time.

So essentially we're already experiencing what you describe now. Getting rid of one set of DST will only help that. Especially as we can use GMT/UTC which is still the reference for most of the world and the simplest way to work out what the actual difference is.
 
Brigadier said:
Whenever the clocks go back, I do my daydream of living in the southern hemisphere for our winter.

Not an exact mirror of our long summer twilights and dusks though (very little landmass is at our roughly 50 degrees from the equator, but south of it).


OOI, I looked up the longest day in 2024, for Newcastle upon Tyne. 17 hrs 21mins.
Contrast that with Melbourne (Aus) longest 2024 day. 21st December, at 14hrs 43mins
Plus, their twilight is shorter than ours, and their plunge into darkness more abrupt.


Ours truly is the greatest country (in my humble opinion), in so many ways. (y)
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but they have a better sky. They look into the galaxy rather than out so their’s has much more to see
 
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Diver Fred said:
The clock change is pretty much a world wide occurance. ...
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Countries between the Tropics don't, in the main change, their clocks, there's no point. Their days are about 12 hours long, and the nights the same.
Similarly, Southern states of Australia change their clocks, but not the northern states.
Similarly, not all USA states alter their clocks.
 
I've been in northern parts in July - very odd, the sun not setting.

I thought the idea for the UK was to align with the rest of Europe, whioch does make some sense. Butthat would be the winter GM time, which I don't like. Dark at 4pm is a bit much.
An Irish situation would arise in Ireland if the EU align themselves and the UK doesn't.
Different times between NI and Eire. Yeah, that sounds Irish.:p

I think China is officially still all one time zone across about 60°. Even more Irish.
 
I think they missed a big chance during covid instead of going back 1 hour in October they should of gone FORWARD by 2 hours. The sun goes down and it gets cold - people move indoors, we would have had an extra 2 hours outside hospitality rather than inside spreading it
 
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