Finally, a grown-up government.

motorbiking said:
Its not right vs left its the playbook that a number of you in this forum adopt.

gammon,
racist,
you live in DM/Torgraph eco chamber
hornsmokers
grifter
blah blah believes

it shows lack of intellect and ability to present one's argument.

it might be why we've had so few left wing governments - ever.

The I'm right and you're a loser approach never works
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oh dear Motorgrifting is still smarting from his lies about Swedish immigration

tut tut :ROFLMAO:
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
I'll reiterate, the EU (the institution itself) is prepared to make its members suffer by deliberately harming them and us by making trade between us and its members more difficult than it needs to be.

This isn't because it enjoys self-harm, but because it may suffer greater harm if we were to succeed in trading openly with its members, as it would encourage others to join us to seek the same sort of deal.

They've said this, on the record. So there's no point in trying to negotiate with them.
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the facts show it was the exact opposite


Here is David Frost admitting the Johnson govt negotiated in bad faith

www.independent.co.uk

Opinion: The government just admitted it wants no-deal Brexit – and it could cause a recession

It seems as though we’re walking away from the deal before the talks have even started with the EU. If it imposes barriers on British goods and services, there will be incredibly hard times ahead
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk





poor Iva, always more wrong than a wrong thing
 
Just more moaning. Honestly it sounds like a load of old women at a bus stop going on about the good old days.

Does anyone have any constructive suggestions that don't rely on time going backwards?
 
Notch7 said:
oh dear Motorgrifting is still smarting from his lies about Swedish immigration

tut tut :ROFLMAO:
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You demonstrated you know f** all as usual. I guess you could apologise... You wont.

Have you even been to Sweden recently?
 
Odds said:
From primeminister of the country to just another youtuber in her spare room spreading conspiracy theories in less than three years.
An impressive career move.
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It's a living.
Tops up her pension as an ex Prime minister.
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
I'll reiterate, the EU (the institution itself) is prepared to make its members suffer by deliberately harming them and us by making trade between us and its members more difficult than it needs to be.

This isn't because it enjoys self-harm, but because it may suffer greater harm if we were to succeed in trading openly with its members, as it would encourage others to join us to seek the same sort of deal.

They've said this, on the record. So there's no point in trying to negotiate with them.
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What a lot of twisted waffle.

We could have stayed in the club. We chose to leave. For the better apparently, so why would we want those benefits
 
carmanmemoranda said:
Is that what the leavers thought would happen because " they need us more than we need them "
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They saw a big red bus, some very big numbers and did a lot of grunting, scratched an X in a box then carried on grunting. There was no 'post Brexit' in their sheltered world. Even slimy toad Ree Smugg suggested it would be 50 years before the UK would be rid of the Brexit scourge.
 
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