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Mottie · 14 Jul 2026

morqthana said:
Or how about providing ways for people to claim asylum without having to break the law?

And would you put a cap on that or just keep taking and taking until the country was bled dry?

noseall · 14 Jul 2026

Mottie said:
And would you put a cap on that

We could come to an agreement with other EU members...oh wait

Mottie · 14 Jul 2026

noseall said:
We could come to an agreement with other EU members...oh wait

You mean like the ones we’ve had in the past when we were members…..oh, wait

noseall · 14 Jul 2026

Mottie said:
You mean like the ones we’ve had in the past when we were members

Similar. However, we missed the boat (pun intended).

EU member states have binding agreements on migrant intake, culminating in the comprehensive EU Pact on Migration and Asylum and an agreement on third-country return hubs. The UK is not included in these EU-wide frameworks

motorbiking · 14 Jul 2026

noseall said:
Me. I'm all ears.

Meanwhile, back in reality central...

".......the UK is experiencing one of the steepest declines in net migration and is at one of the lowest levels since 2012.

Small boat arrivals also declined in the first five months of this year: 9,142 migrants managed to reach the British coast between the beginning of the year and June 9 -- that's 38 percent fewer arrivals than during the same period last year....."

Your turn Mottie.

Nosenout celebrates the numbers coming down back to previous levels after going up a lot, when Labour took power.

noseall said:
Nope.

Between January 1 and mid-July 2026, approximately 12,500 people crossed the English Channel in small boats. This represents a reduction of roughly 37% to 40% compared to the same period in 2025. The drop follows a landmark £662 million partnership agreed with France in April to boost beach enforcement

Glad I could help educate you and Mottie.

Did I show you the crux of this thread.....

thanks for the link.. Which shows the numbers having gone up a lot, have come down back to previous levels

Odds · 14 Jul 2026

Y'all realise that the RNLI isn't to blame for the spectacular rise in immigration due to Bre*it, don't you?

motorbiking · 14 Jul 2026

Odds said:
Y'all realise that the RNLI isn't to blame for the spectacular rise in immigration due to Bre*it, don't you?

who said they were?

Koolpc · 14 Jul 2026

motorbiking said:
who said they were?

Exactly

Odds · 14 Jul 2026

motorbiking said:
who said they were?

.

motorbiking said:
So the RNLI/border force taxi simply needs to ask them where are you intending to go.

if they say England, then the offence is committed if they say France then call the French navy for a return ride.

I do not buy the story that these people are newly converted Christians or homosexuals but accept people say what they think will work.

motorbiking · 14 Jul 2026

are you seriously trying to suggest the above is a claim that

"the RNLI is to blame for the spectacular rise in immigration"

King Billy · 14 Jul 2026

motorbiking said:
Nosenout celebrates the numbers coming down back to previous levels after going up a lot, when Labour took power.

thanks for the link.. Which shows the numbers having gone up a lot, have come down back to previous levels
View attachment 418362

Looking carefully at your presented graph, i would deduce that about 11,000 arrivals would be about the norm.
But 2020 and 2021 arrivals would have been influenced by Covid. So the reduction of arrivals in those two years would total about 15,000 (about 9,000 in 2020 and about 6,000 in 2021)
It seems reasonable to assume that in the years following, 2024 and 2025, the numbers of arrivals increased because the 'log jam' of Covid was removed, and that resulted in an increase of about 8,000 morea rrivals in those two years.

So 2020 and 2021 Covid was a factor in reducing the number of arrivals, and the removal of the restrictions brought about by Covid allowed the number of arrivals to find an average amount, albeit with only 50% of the restricted numbers regained.

motorbiking · 14 Jul 2026

King Billy said:
Looking carefully at your presented graph, i would deduce that about 11,000 arrivals would be about the norm.

Remove the outliers and take the average - I don't disagree with the approach.

King Billy said:
But 2020 and 2021 arrivals would have been influenced by Covid. So the reduction of arrivals in those two years would total about 15,000 (about 9,000 in 2020 and about 6,000 in 2021)
It seems reasonable to assume that in the years following, 2024 and 2025, the numbers of arrivals increased because the 'log jam' of Covid was removed, and that resulted in an increase of about 8,000 morea rrivals in those two years.

So 2020 and 2021 Covid was a factor in reducing the number of arrivals, and the removal of the restrictions brought about by Covid allowed the number of arrivals to find an average amount, albeit with only 50% of the restricted numbers regained.

These numbers would show in the 2022 figures, when Covid restrictions were lifted.

So with broadly 11000 (half year) analysis as per my snapshot, the 2026 figures are nothing to celebrate.

King Billy · 14 Jul 2026

motorbiking said:
These numbers would show in the 2022 figures, when Covid restrictions were lifted.

There are or were other factors, e.g. weather, tides, variations in beach patrols, launching from Belgium, etc.

noseall · 14 Jul 2026

motorbiking said:
Nosenout celebrates the numbers coming down

Always. Glad you sorted your specs.

motorbiking · 14 Jul 2026

King Billy said:
There are or were other factors, e.g. weather, tides, variations in beach patrols, launching from Belgium, etc.

tides

do you think these change year to year significantly?

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