Expensive car yet completely thick.

Softus · 21 Jul 2007

Stulz said:
Disabled people demand and deserve equal rights. They, like other minority groups, demand to be treated the same as able bodied people.

No they don't. They want the same opportunities as able-bodied people, which is a very different thing.

So why on earth do they get special treatment in car parks? If you want equality, park in a normal bay, as many do when the few disabled bays are full.

It isn't about equality, it's about being kind to people who are less fortunate. Since most car parks are privately owned, and since without privileged spaces some people might otherwise simply not park there at all, it makes commercial sense to provide those spaces.

It's basically the "there but for the grace of God go I" principle - the one that causes us to give way to any blue-lit ambulance even though there's no law that requires us to do so.

masona · 22 Jul 2007

I think the only way is to have a swipecard system to operate the barrier into the disabled car park

2scoops0406 · 22 Jul 2007

Have to agree with RF there, just 'cos you drive an expensive car (define what expensive is) dosen't automatically make you an inconsiderate arrogant moron.

Nige F · 22 Jul 2007

joe-90 said:
It beats me how disabled people need to park right near the door because they are disabled in some way yet once inside can walk round and round a superstore for hours.

Good Point

BUT the friggin normal bays are so narrow that you can`t open the door wide enough

I need to find an empty one next to drivers side to get out.....then I exagerate my (genuine) limp as I walk past the dis. bays

Also the badge scheme is a lottery.....I gave mine back because I didn`t think it was justified

BoxBasher · 22 Jul 2007

Tim 77 said:
To be honest I find they're the worst offenders.

Or do big, shiny new expensive cars catch your eye more?

Softus said:
Since most car parks are privately owned, and since without privileged spaces some people might otherwise simply not park there at all, it makes commercial sense to provide those spaces.

Two multi-storeys by me got slated recently when they scrapped free parking for blue badge holders. Their argument (and a valid one in my opinion) is that they provide premium spaces (larger, nearest the doors/lifts) for disabled customers and enforce that these spaces are only used by blue badge holders. Surely if they are reserving the best spaces in the car park for a specific group of people then these people should not also expect them to be free?

If you can't afford 80p for an hour, £1.20 for 2hrs and £1.50 for 3hrs - what the hell are you doing in a major shopping precinct?

On the subject of bad driving/parking - how many times have you had to struggle to get round a junction because of a blue badge holder parked in a very dangerous and obstructive position? Even white van drivers display more sense round here.

toffee · 22 Jul 2007

I think that it is down to individuals.
I have seen a disabled person park beside the curb where it was dropped specifically for wheelchairs and prams etc.
When this was pointed out to them, they were very rude and arrogant and said that they could park where they liked due to being disabled.

This disabled individual was simply being selfish and rude and inconsiderate. (selfish towards other disabled people too)
I believe it was indicative of their personality, not the fact that they happened to be disabled.

I dont think that disabled parking should be free in car parks when everyone else has to pay.

however, I have said that without really thinking about it.

If I lived in a town, then I would have the choice to walk into town but severely disabled would not have that choice.
Then again, if I and a disabled neighbour were going to somewhere for a days sightseeing, why should I pay to park and the disabled person be able to park free?

Its impossible to sort that out that argument though and I guess that I would rather pay for parking and not be disabled.

Tim 77 · 22 Jul 2007

BoxBasher said:
Tim 77 said:

To be honest I find they're the worst offenders.

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Or do big, shiny new expensive cars catch your eye more?

No, the car parks round here just seem to have the blue badge spots full of Bmws, Mercs ect without blue badges in their windows.

If you park in one of these spots when you're not entitled to then you deserve to return to your vehicle and find a fine or notice on the windscreen or big key/trolly/wheelchair mark down the side for displaying such arrogance and disrespect for drivers less able than yourself.

2scoops0406 · 22 Jul 2007

Tim 77 said:
BoxBasher said:

Tim 77 said:

To be honest I find they're the worst offenders.

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Or do big, shiny new expensive cars catch your eye more?

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No, the car parks round here just seem to have the blue badge spots full of Bmws, Mercs ect without blue badges in their windows.

If you park in one of these spots when you're not entitled to then you deserve to return to your vehicle and find a fine or notice on the windscreen or big key/trolly/wheelchair mark down the side for displaying such arrogance and disrespect for drivers less able than yourself.

Then I can only surmise that the denziens of Nottingham are rude arrogant morons. I suggest you move. I for one would never intentionally park in a disabled space, or for that matter, a mother and baby space, now politically correctly renamed to family parking.

equitum · 22 Jul 2007

I've noticed they also have problems spelling, even their own names, often appear dislexic on nunber plates, with combinations of letters and numbers, e.g.

SM1TH, J0N3S etc.

Tim 77 · 22 Jul 2007

Eddie M said:
Tim 77 said:

BoxBasher said:

Tim 77 said:

To be honest I find they're the worst offenders.

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Or do big, shiny new expensive cars catch your eye more?

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No, the car parks round here just seem to have the blue badge spots full of Bmws, Mercs ect without blue badges in their windows.

If you park in one of these spots when you're not entitled to then you deserve to return to your vehicle and find a fine or notice on the windscreen or big key/trolly/wheelchair mark down the side for displaying such arrogance and disrespect for drivers less able than yourself.

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Then I can only surmise that the denziens of Nottingham are rude arrogant morons. I suggest you move. I for one would never intentionally park in a disabled space, or for that matter, a mother and baby space, now politically correctly renamed to family parking.

You surmise correctly.

I'm off down your way if they're all like you in Hampshire as you sound like a top bloke.

LeeJC · 22 Jul 2007

People are di@kheads, has nothing to do with what car they drive.

And that goes for disabled/able bodied/colour/creed the works.

And believe it or not BM's do come with indicators, i use mine all the time.

tim west · 23 Jul 2007

LeeJC said:
And believe it or not BM's do come with indicators, i use mine all the time.

That's the point, you should only use them when turning

kevplumb · 23 Jul 2007

Tim 77 said:
breezer said:

eg. your child is registered dissabled, but since they are not old enough to drive you can still qualify for a dissabled badge.

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I have a blue badge as my son has autisim and struggles to walk.

I've lost count of the number of arguments I've got into when I've took him shopping in the van and been confronted by somebody who's convinced I'm taking the p**s.

And I've never used the badge if I haven't had my son with me.

i have a daughter with the same condition
exept i don't own an expensive car neither does the ex wife

Softus · 23 Jul 2007

tim west said:
LeeJC said:

And believe it or not BM's do come with indicators, i use mine all the time.

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That's the point, you should only use them when turning

And only when there's someone else to see you indicate.

JohnD · 23 Jul 2007

there is an alternative view, that if drivers always indicate before a manoeuvre, this will be useful on the occasions when they haven't noticed the bike wanting to pass, the person about to pull out, or the person about to cross that side street they're going to turn down.

Expensive car yet completely thick.

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