Show us where he said 100,000 people tested then, no deflections just the actual proof.
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Raising the testing capacity to 100k, maybe, but not performing 100k tests.
1000 fingers and thumbs sound better.
Going on the brief yesterday it is capacity rather than actually testing people.
As it politics full info is needed.
Capacity.
Stock of swabs and reagents, diy kits etc plus future supply to allow 700,000 a week for as long as needed.
People needed to process the test.
Then people actually tested.
25,000,000 can now be eligible for a test. It seems "millions" of the 10million people who were previously eligible for a test have been trying to get one. It's a press millions but from testing to confirmed cases most are usually negative.
England - They tested 122,660 during the past week - Thurs to Thurs and there was 16,722 positive cases, 4,319 deaths.
We might hear that there isn't anything in the ethnic death aspect and it's broadly similar across all races.
As it politics full info is needed.
Capacity.
Stock of swabs and reagents, diy kits etc plus future supply to allow 700,000 a week for as long as needed.
People needed to process the test.
Then people actually tested.
25,000,000 can now be eligible for a test. It seems "millions" of the 10million people who were previously eligible for a test have been trying to get one. It's a press millions but from testing to confirmed cases most are usually negative.
England - They tested 122,660 during the past week - Thurs to Thurs and there was 16,722 positive cases, 4,319 deaths.
We might hear that there isn't anything in the ethnic death aspect and it's broadly similar across all races.
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well that would just be stupid, if I had a shop wit a 100,000 stock of balloons on the shelf, could I claim the ability to sell a 100k a day - actual sales would be the marker of success
You do realise gloves are sold in boxes of 100s, not 50 pairs
But what if someone bought 80000 ,and returned 20000 because they had holes in,for you to replace,all 100000 balloons would be gone,but you only get paid for 80000.
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The goal was 100,000 tests a day. If they get close to achieving that, but argue they had the capacity, but not the demand. I'm inclined to let them off. If they did say 50,000 but claimed they could have done 100,000 then I will stand aside and let the Neg'ers bath in their smugness.
Nobody said 100,000 unique people. Sometimes the same people are tested more than once.
Nobody said 100,000 unique people. Sometimes the same people are tested more than once.
why have the govt relied on sequential increases by bringing superlabs on stream -who are these superlabs.
When free markets drive progress, the criteria is profit not saving lives.
from a financial standpoint it is in the governments interest to kill off old people in care homes.
When free markets drive progress, the criteria is profit not saving lives.
from a financial standpoint it is in the governments interest to kill off old people in care homes.
its too late.
there are 40,000 people dead, no need to test them
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Its very sad, but to a large extent we need to bring it in to context. less than 3,000 "healthy" people and thats expanding the definition to include those who probably weren't particularly physically fit.
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It seems underlying health conditions is the disclaimer when talking about the deaths - these people were not at deaths door prior to getting infected - the ONS analysis of excess deaths confirms this.
https://wellcomeopenresearch.org/articles/5-75/v1
Well this paper is waiting peer review but concludes the following that these people had on average a decade left to live.
"Using the standard WHO life tables, YLL per COVID-19 death was 14 for men and 12 for women. After adjustment for number and type of LTCs, the mean YLL was slightly lower, but remained high (13 and 11 years for men and women, respectively). The number and type of LTCs led to wide variability in the estimated YLL at a given age (e.g. at ≥80 years, YLL was >10 years for people with 0 LTCs, and <3 years for people with ≥6).
https://wellcomeopenresearch.org/articles/5-75/v1
Well this paper is waiting peer review but concludes the following that these people had on average a decade left to live.
"Using the standard WHO life tables, YLL per COVID-19 death was 14 for men and 12 for women. After adjustment for number and type of LTCs, the mean YLL was slightly lower, but remained high (13 and 11 years for men and women, respectively). The number and type of LTCs led to wide variability in the estimated YLL at a given age (e.g. at ≥80 years, YLL was >10 years for people with 0 LTCs, and <3 years for people with ≥6).
Scattered across the country with I think 1 or 2 biggies. The sudden increase may be down to opening a biggy.
I've just spent some time trying to check something Jeremy Hunt said. They have had him on the box a couple of time and he mentioned S Korea managed with 20,000 tests a day. Actually it looks like they started with 10,000, boosted to 15k and then 20k. They also cut the turn round time for a test to a couple of hours by heating it up. No mention of when that was introduced. They may have taken a free if test proved positive approach. Not sure.
Jeremy Hunt has also called for an increase in testing earlier on.
So where did the UK go wrong? There population is 51m so not all that different. The major difference seems to be not hitting high case numbers and if all wear the same gear in an ICU as seen on TV probably zero chance of catching it. It encloses completely with 2 large filters on the wearers back. When a nurse gets out of one they look like they have been in a sauna.
Maybe they also thought economy will go what ever so got into dealing with it the usual way very very early on plus contact tracing.
Need to read the web from Oz to see what the successful countries did with tracking. Korea's is interesting showing how it can be done despite apple etc.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04...ontact-tracing-apps-around-the-world/12189438
Seems Korea has also got round the buy a pay as you go phone and use it for crime - to some extent anyway.
Or more in some cases. That's the problem with looking at it this way. This is one reason why they have an interest in excess death. Not just from the point of view from a drop in people going to A&E. They will have figures for deaths at home in that area as well - in other words didn't turn up at A&E.
One certain factor is age. It's interesting that this relates to testing as well. The older some one is the more likely the test will come back positive. It gets to something like 50% at around 60. I suppose as people get older they have a better idea of what coughs and colds are normally like - mind you I suspect it's down to something else.
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