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14 yo girl electrocuted trying to charge mobile in bath

Also because memory is so cheap, programmers don't need to write efficient code
My cousin set up a company supplying bespoke software to, among others, the oil industry, he had most of the code written by people in Poland because with the Eastern bloc's primitive machme memory was scarce so they were practised at writing compact code, less memory means less to go wrong. Soft errors from Alpha particles banging into a RAM memory cell.

I recall a colleague tearing his hair out on an Intel 8008 based encoder, EPROM came on cards of 2 K bytes, his code was 2 bytes more than a 2 K boundary and there was no space in the rack for another card. He got there in the end.
 
Also because memory is so cheap, programmers don't need to write efficient code. Many have never used machine code - there's no need. Remember when we would spend an hour or so typing hexadecimal then when we tried to run the programme, nothing happened. At least John's "Syntax error in line 3" gave a bit of a clue!
Indeed. I've probably told here before the story of my first computer - a Z80-based one of my own creation (built with discrete components, other than the Z80 itself) - for which I wrote an 'operating system', 'word processor' and 'spreadsheet' (all of those inverted commas being very apposite :) ), directly in Z80 machine code (none of that soppy assembler stuff!), but initially within the constraints of 8k total available RAM (total for application' and workspace), plus 2K EPROM for the 'OS' - so 'efficient code' was absolutely essential. A year or two later I upgraded to 16k RAM (still static, hence power hungry) and ultimately to 32k of dynamic RAM!

KInd Regards, John
 
The first microprocessor system I designed used the Motorola one bit micro-processor MC14500, mostly for simple tasks, converting DTMF telephone dialling into decadic inputs to a paging system was the first application. GPO rules about connections to a PABX meant we had to use one of the approved hardware interfaces, either 10 pulse per second or decadic. 10 pps meant the caller had to wait up to 7 seconds while 7 digits were pulsed into the paging system ( 3 for the paging receiver number and 4 for the extension they had to contact ) before they got an acknowledgment and often they would hang up and redial which messed up the system Decadic took less than a second after last DTMF digit had been received.

http://www.linurs.org/mc14500.html
 
The first microprocessor system I designed used the Motorola one bit micro-processor MC14500, mostly for simple tasks, converting DTMF telephone dialling into decadic inputs to a paging system was the first application. GPO rules about connections to a PABX meant we had to use one of the approved hardware interfaces, either 10 pulse per second or decadic. 10 pps meant the caller had to wait up to 7 seconds while 7 digits were pulsed into the paging system ( 3 for the paging receiver number and 4 for the extension they had to contact ) before they got an acknowledgment and often they would hang up and redial which messed up the system Decadic took less than a second after last DTMF digit had been received.
http://www.linurs.org/mc14500.html
Goodness! I had no idea electrical bath death was such a complex subject!
 
The first microprocessor system I designed used the Motorola one bit micro-processor MC14500
Gosh, that takes me back! I've not long sold one of those on ebay. The RS components rep who covered my company used one of those to make a word processor. Set the ASCII code for each character using a row of toggle switches, then a momentary pushbutton to scan the switches with the 14500... It wasn't fast.:)
 
Perhaps we should split this nostalgia trip to a new thread.....

That said a lot of early electronic components did die in the bath tub
 
RS components rep who covered my company

I thought we'd already established that I am!

When I was young Radio Spares trade counter was in a side street of Tottenham Court Road. They gave you a cup of tea if it was big order taking time to assemble. Real tea out of a tea pot. And no anonymous Stock Codes, real descriptions of the part inside the box.
 
When I was young Radio Spares trade counter was in a side street of Tottenham Court Road. They gave you a cup of tea if it was big order taking time to assemble. Real tea out of a tea pot. And no anonymous Stock Codes, real descriptions of the part inside the box.
You're going to start talking about Sid Proops and "Z&I Aero Services" soon :-)

KindRegards, John
 
Used to go in Proops as a kid sometimes when we went into the city, often prior to meeting my father after work as his office was in Wigmore St. And occasionally the one or two surplus places which were still in Lisle St. at the time. But moving out to Luton in later years, Surplustronics was a big haunt - They used to do mail-order through ads in Practical Wireless, Radio Constructor etc. as well if I recall correctly. Their 50p. bargain boxes of all manner of parts kept me amused for the whole weekend sorting through them!
 
Best place for me as a youngster was Job Stocks in St Marys Road, Walthamstow, Ex army surplus equipment from new fangled semi conductor diodes to aircraft borne navigation aids.
 

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