4 port USB 2 hub

[Monkeh]

So, OP:

If the USB 2.0 hub is bus-powered (ie. no separate power adapter), get one with a power supply. Otherwise, just use the hub for other devices and plug that XCM adapter straight in.

And leave DIN boy alone, he has a short temper

 

[helijohn]

Let's see if I have this right and if I have learned anything. Please excuse the non-tech layman's language. The USB ports on a PC or PS3 or such like have about 500ma available each. If I plug in a 4 port hub it needs 100ma itself so the 4 ports get the remaining 400ma - 100ma each.
I spotted that lead length may have an effect. I have a really long extension USB lead between the PS3 and the 4 port and I can see that voltage drop could occur and may muddy the picture but I only use the XCM on the end of this lead (with or without a 4 port). I got the 4 port hub to be able to use other stuff like a keyboard also, and, indeed, the keyboard does work whether on its own or when the XCM is connected too. For the purpose of this problem I had no other USB item attached, just the XCM alone. The old USB1.1 4 port hub works fine but the three USB2.0s that I have tried just won't.
I have the long lead as the TV and me are on the other side of a wall from the PS3. The PS3 is located with the main TV but I have to go into the next room mainly to play the games. I have another thread where I asked about using two TVs from the PS3.
So now I am going to find a powered USB 4 port hub and see if that will do the trick.
I have read every word and tried to take it all in - I really wasn't intending to create any animosity.

Just found this.......
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Belkin-USB-2-...puting_Cables_USB_Hubs_ET&hash=item2c54e82770

 

[Monkeh]

Let's see if I have this right and if I have learned anything. Please excuse the non-tech layman's language. The USB ports on a PC or PS3 or such like have about 500ma available each. If I plug in a 4 port hub it needs 100ma itself so the 4 ports get the remaining 400ma - 100ma each.

I doubt it'll use all 100mA itself, but yes, the ports only get 100mA each.

I spotted that lead length may have an effect. I have a really long extension USB lead between the PS3 and the 4 port and I can see that voltage drop could occur and may muddy the picture but I only use the XCM on the end of this lead (with or without a 4 port).

How long is this lead?

I got the 4 port hub to be able to use other stuff like a keyboard also, and, indeed, the keyboard does work whether on its own or when the XCM is connected too. For the purpose of this problem I had no other USB item attached, just the XCM alone. The old USB1.1 4 port hub works fine but the three USB2.0s that I have tried just won't.

As I suggested, try a powered hub.

Just found this.......
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Belkin-USB-2-...ables_USB_Hubs_ET&hash=item2c54e82770[/QUOTE]

Don't bother bidding on something, just buy this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Belkin-Link-I...vr_id=&cguid=286606b51280a0e2048419f4fea152fd

If that doesn't work, nothing will.

 

[helijohn]

How long is this lead?

About ten feet. I am sure you will not be happy about it but I have to go from one room to the other.

That's a great link. Cheers.

 

[Monkeh]

How long is this lead?

About ten feet. I am sure you will not be happy about it but I have to go from one room to the other.

Three metres is quite acceptable for a USB cable. On the other hand, is this an A-B lead or an extension? Adding the ~1.8m of a normal A-B on the end of that is getting too close for comfort.

 

[helijohn]

three metres is quite acceptable for a USB cable.

That's a relief. I'll let you know how I get on with a powered hub.

 

[Monkeh]

You may want to pick up an A-B lead instead of the extension, too.

 

[helijohn]

You may want to pick up an A-B lead instead of the extension, too.

That would have caught me out as I thought it would be USB to USB, not mini. I have a few short ones like for the mobile phone. Need to see if it does the trick first. One I might bid on isn't clear about it so I am waiting for clarification.
Interestingly on this one half way down under tech spec it says it will work with any USB peripheral.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Port-Mains-Power-Supply-Cable/dp/B002LPVO66#moreAboutThisProduct

 

[Monkeh]

You may want to pick up an A-B lead instead of the extension, too.

That would have caught me out as I thought it would be USB to USB, not mini. I have a few short ones like for the mobile phone. Need to see if it does the trick first. One I might bid on isn't clear about it so I am waiting for clarification.
Interestingly on this one half way down under tech spec it says it will work with any USB peripheral.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Port-Mains-Power-Supply-Cable/dp/B002LPVO66#moreAboutThisProduct[/QUOTE]

A-B isn't mini. If it were mini, I'd have said so. A is the rectangular connector, B is the square one. Full size.

And yes, that hub should work with just about anything.

 

[helijohn]

A-B isn't mini. If it were mini, I'd have said so. A is the rectangular connector, B is the square one.

Ah yes thanks, I did know that. My Lexmark printer and a few other things use A-B and I do have a spare of those but I think in one of the mains powered USB 4 port hubs I read about while searching it said it used mini USB and that's why I ended up saying what I did. I am trying to find the cheapest buy and there are lots to sift through as the searches bring up powered hubs which are powered from the PC/laptop as well as the mains ones.

 

[helijohn]

Hold on, it was here where I saw "mini USB" which is link you gave me

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370389466767&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Does this one need an A-B lead??

 

[Monkeh]

Oh, right, those use a mini-B to cram in the power connector. Just get an adapter.

 

[helijohn]

Oh, right, those use a mini-B to cram in the power connector. Just get an adapter.

I have some USB to mini USB leads which I could use while I see if it works. Then later I could get and adapter or a 10 feet USB to mini USB lead.

 

[helijohn]

Don't bother bidding on something, just buy this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Belkin-Link-I...vr_id=&cguid=286606b51280a0e2048419f4fea152fd

that hub should work with just about anything.

It is rather quiet about high speed 480mbps.
On the other hand this one, which is £1 more, covers it all:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467198433&pf_rd_i=468294

 

[Monkeh]

Don't bother bidding on something, just buy this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Belkin-Link-I...vr_id=&cguid=286606b51280a0e2048419f4fea152fd

that hub should work with just about anything.

It is rather quiet about high speed 480mbps.

I'm 99.99% certain it does high speed, because my 7-port version most certainly does.