A 22-year-old Afghan national.

[Knave of Hearts]

No body has said they are all committing serious crime, it will only be a small proportion of them, but on a pro rata or per capita basis the numbers according to what jenerick was able to uncover are extremely disproportionate

I've explained several times. But I'll do t again.
The average violent crime rate in UK is about 32 per 1,000.
There are currently over 100,000 asylum seekers in the UK.
If it's reasonable to expect a similar violent crime rate among asylum seekers, we would expect to see something like 32 * 110,000= 3,520 violent crimes committed by asylum seekers.
For the violent crime rate among asylum seekers, you would expect those violent crime numbers to be greater than 3,520.
Are they?
I've now aslked several times, along with that explanation.
You refuse to answer and continue to push your absurd theory.

May be it is beyond your comprehension, but if, lets say 0.4% of our population is made up of migrants that have arrived illegally, and lets say 4% of a certain types of serious crimes are being committed by them, then can you see that would be disproportionate?

You've plucked some figures out of the air, just like your hero jenrick.
My figures are based on reality and quantifiable data.

And if the figures jenerick was able to come up with are not fact,

They weren't.

then why are the real figures being suppressed ?

They don't exist.

could it be that the real figures could cause serious problems ?

No, but your constant presentation of disinformation will.

Disputed or debunked claims about migration and crime in the UK​

Disputed or debunked claims about migration and crime in the UK

As politicians face criticism for promoting misleading data, here are some claims that do not bear scrutiny

www.theguardian.com

You might need assistance in understanding the first explanation, judging by your apparent inability to consider other sources than Jenrick.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

What I posted wasn't "starting with you". I said he was wrong to post that. I said I've been equally wrong. I said you've been equally wrong. If someone is rude to me, I might let it go, I might not. He wasn't being rude to me, so I didn't respond to him directly.

Remember we're talking here about an insult, and not even one aimed at character or intelligence. It wasn't an accusation of criminality or depravity etc.

Wrong? Yes.

Worthy of a exaggerated indignity? Not really.

Was it the sort of thing you'd report?

It was a response to a troll while they were trolling. I thought it was a good response to a troll.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Do you think the rhetoric from the likes of Reform follows that rationale? Or do you think they tweak the narrative to push the assertion that it's more than a minority?

I want to be clear. See my other posts in other threads. I do not agree with the current farce that is the migrant situation. However, if nothing else from a logic pov, it annoys when narratives are disseminated that are blatantly guff.

The likes of Reform are perfectly happy for the perception to be 'they're all dangerous, don't trust any of them!'

Don't get me wrong, of course all parties tweak narratives to suit their agenda, that's politics. However on stuff like this, it can be dangerous as it gives idiots the perception they need to act, even if that's in an illegal way. Like the 20 year old Sikh woman who was raped by two white guys and told 'you don't belong here.'

The tweaked/twisted narrative feeds this sort of thing.

What annoys me most of all is both this and the previous government have failed to get to grips with the migrant issue.

The migrant issue is in our DNA. If it were not so we wouldn't have survived as a species.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

No reform needed - no narrative needed - just look at the news - maybe its bad timing then that there are so many murders - rape attempts - assaults by people who arrived on boats and lorries.

Don't forget the Royal Family.
One sexual predator in about 24 Royal males. Is that about 4%?

 

[pete01]

Snowflake.

You asked me why I don't post DIY advice.
Why don't you ask everyone. Or does your interest only lie with me, and why?
Who else have you checked to see if they post DIY advice?

Admit it, you were just trolling because that's what you do.

No I was aking why you are on a DIY forum but dont give out any DIY advice

 

[Knave of Hearts]

No I was aking why you are on a DIY forum but dont give out any DIY advice

Because this isn't the DIY forum. It's the General Discussion forum.

 

[pete01]

Too busy to play with you. You'll have to find someone else to play with.

Reported

 

[Munroast]

I've explained several times. But I'll do t again.
The average violent crime rate in UK is about 32 per 1,000.
There are currently over 100,000 asylum seekers in the UK.
If it's reasonable to expect a similar violent crime rate among asylum seekers, we would expect to see something like 32 * 110,000= 3,520 violent crimes committed by asylum seekers.
For the violent crime rate among asylum seekers, you would expect those violent crime numbers to be greater than 3,520.
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I've now aslked several times, along with that explanation.
You refuse to answer and continue to push your absurd theory.


You've plucked some figures out of the air, just like your hero jenrick.
My figures are based on reality and quantifiable data.


They weren't.


They don't exist.


No, but your constant presentation of disinformation will.

Disputed or debunked claims about migration and crime in the UK

As politicians face criticism for promoting misleading data, here are some claims that do not bear scrutiny

www.theguardian.com

You might need assistance in understanding the first explanation, judging by your apparent inability to consider other sources than Jenrick.

what a stupid brainless reply, in a nutshell - as the data is suppressed how do we know ????
I keep saying the data is suppressed, so why do you keep asking me to produce it ? IT IS KEPT UNDER LOCK AND KEY - the question is why

why is the data suppressed ???? I will give you a clue, it would be damming and the demand to stop the inward migration would explode
Obviously if the data showed the migrants in a good light - they would be shouting it from the roof tops

The problem with you is you are utterly clueless, you continually make stupid wild assumptions, for instance, why are you saying Jenerick is my hero, I have not even been remotely complementary about him - like many things you spout off, it is made up nonsense. you are a out and out troll - come on show me where Jenerick is my hero...

 

[SPLINE]

We don't import people, never mind importing killers.
Your comments are total nonsense.

The government brought 24,000 Afghanistanis here a couple of years ago and took out an injunction against the press to stop us knowing about it.

 

[Elsa TLC]

I honestly don't think the majority of them do.

They just say they do, coz the alternative is to admit that they just don't like foreigners

I dislike sh!te people. Regardless if they are foreign or white English.

Is there a name for that?

 

[Deleted member 325366]

The government brought 24,000 Afghanistanis here a couple of years ago and took out an injunction against the press to stop us knowing about it.

How did you find out

 

[aveatry]

How did you find out

When the Super-injunction lifted

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www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[aveatry]

I dislike sh!te people. Regardless if they are foreign or white English.

Is there a name for that?

Yes its racist -- its always racist or populist or the daily mail or something about 14 years -- and racist dont forget racist

 

[Deleted member 325366]

When the Super-injunction lifted

Access Restricted

www.telegraph.co.uk

Thank you

 

[morqthana]

One word: "hypocrisy".

Not really.

If you insult me, I may or may not respond, depending on what you say. And, TBH, how I'm feeling.

If pete01 insults me, I may or may not respond, depending on what he says. And, TBH, how I'm feeling.

You insulted pete, but I'm not going to intervene directly in that - its between you two.

I thought he was going on a bit about it, so I said so, given that he's done it too. (And as I admitted, so have I).

I too have probably deserved a "get a grip" about how I've reacted to things, and I expect you have too.

Pete and I have had our run-ins, and then cooled down and backed off.

"Hypocrisy"? A bit harsh, IMO - we can all be inconsistent about how we react to things.


But note, throughout this, when I say "insult" I mean the "yah boo sucks you smell" type, not impugning someone's character with allegations of dishonesty, of supporting terrorists, or hating Jews, etc.