Abergas HTM boiler

Believe me you wouldn`t :lol: from memory they where over 90% . without the need for a drain. never knew one that lasted more than 10 years customers could not put up with the constant breakdowns, last one i saw was around 1986
 
Wow. It looks tiny, is that a fused spur in the first picture?
 
that is fantastic :D

I would love to have a pock around inside one. from the look and from what others have said this was before its time... wish we could come up with cool British stuff like this rather then have the useless box of crap from ideal.
 
From my recollection it was about the size of a Concord WRS or similar, not a massive thing. I'm wondering if the 'fused spur' is the box housing the circuit board/transformer etc, as there was a HT lead (similar to a petrol engine) leading from the circuit board to the spark plug.

I now wonder with the fully pumped systems of today whether this would have seen more success had it been available now. Certainly sounds like it could have given the steamers a run for their money. The flue terminal was an unusual design too, in the absence of any photo's, trying to sketch (badly) from memory what it looked like. Will try and improve on current effort and post it up for reference.

Flameangel, if yours ever gives up the ghost then i'll collect it! I would like to do a post mortem on it. :)
Any pictures of it would be appreciated too. :wink:
 
I would be interested to know more about them if anyone could give any information or pictures!


As you live in Northampton, you should know they were made locally to youjavascript:emoticon(':shock:').

I've had one forever. (although the guts of the original boiler have long since been replaced).

There is one on our old workshop wall that's not been fired up for well, several years.

The main problem with them was the HE was made of steel & would rust & hence they could not fire up properly.
In our case we only used it in the winter for heating, & whilst dormant, the rust would make the tiny holes in the HE, block up.

There was another company that had the copyright after abergas, but cannot remember who it was.

You'll love this even better, I actually have a BRAND NEW one sitting around somewhere, but it could not be installed owing to needing 28mm tails (the system has 22mm ones).

By far one of the best boilers ever. When in full use it heated 18 radiators (2500 sq ft) & measures only about 12" D x 20" W x 27" H.

I also have an assembly book somewhere.
 
I was a twinkle in my fathers eye when it was installed, and a mere boy when we moved house, leaving it behind, (and moved up to a Vulcan Continental...!). Working from childhood memories and a bit of a Google on here. :wink:

If you could tell me any more about Abergas i'd be pleased to hear from you. :)
 
I was a twinkle in my fathers eye when it was installed, and a mere boy when we moved house, leaving it behind, (and moved up to a Vulcan Continental...!). Working from childhood memories and a bit of a Google on here. :wink:

If you could tell me any more about Abergas i'd be pleased to hear from you. :)

I will look around for the installation instructions.

As you will see earlier in this forum, there is a picture of it. The 1st picture shows the inners.
In principle, these have a fan unit (the part on the left of the photo). This is connected to the back plate & a chamber to the outside for incoming air outside. The gas is plumbed into the side wall of this unit.

The Fan is bolted to the Heat exchanger & inside the HE, there is a burner (the later ones worked well).

There an igniter (like a simple spark plug base) set to the side of the fan unit where it joins the HE. This is inside the HE, between the burner & the HE inner wall. the spark is generated by the capacitor control panel.

The later HE, was a work of art, but had they been made of stainless steel would have worked forever.

When the boiler was switched on the electrical system would check all 1st.

The pump would be running, then the fan would start. The gas valve would be opened by the control panel & the ignition would fire, causing the gas coming into the HE via the burner to ignite.
The fan would run all the time the unit was on & constantly 'push the mix of air/gas into the HE. The water would be pumped into the HE via one pipe. circulate the HE & leave Hot via the out pipe, to be pumped around the Rad system. Returning when cooler & the cycle repeats itself again.....

On our one, there is a thermostat inside the out bound pipe & this controlled the temperature the boiler worked too (this changed on later HE's).

The HE was clever, the back & front round chambers were welded to pipes, about 1/2" dia' and set apart by about an i" each. They then during the assembly, inserted the round discs over every other pipe. stacked one on top of the other, in rotation to every other one.

This caused a small hole where the disc on the adj' pipe would lay, leaving small 1/8" square gap, & so up to the top. The other end plate was then welded on.
The hot burned gas mixture was then vented through the small gap holes heating the discs/pipes & hence the water flowing inside, then cooled, into the outer casing & out through the flue.

Sadly, it was these holes between the disc that would corrode & block up the holes (because the HE is made of steel). Hence the outgoing spent air/gas mixture could not escape, so the boiler would start up, fire, then shut down again.

Removing the flue cover & looking into the Flue, from the outside wall, when it was firing you could see the fire inside the HE & it looked like a mini furnace inside.

Job done......
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Thats pretty much as I remember the flue. :D

IIRC the boiler was quite noisy in operation, whirring/buzzing from the fan.

Aber1, have you got any more info on Abergas? I've lived in Northants all my life, wasn't aware Abergas were local until your post! Have asked the old man but he's not forthcoming at the best of times.... (Doesn't interest him so either wont or cant remember. :cry: ) If you need some space and no longer require the boiler i'd be happy to take it off your hands, just to examine it!
 
Hmmm the flue looks similar to one or two I have seen here but I don't think it is the same. The one I have seen is a rectangular shape (like the picture) but is completely flat with a small square vent/outlet in the centre.
 
This is proving extremely interesting, thankyou to all who've contributed, particularly Aber1.

I didnt realise at the time the boiler was so advanced in many ways for its time, bear in mind this was 1960's technology! It did make me think as an apprentice that all the other boilers I saw at the time were nothing like the Abergas, the media wasn't available then to research as it is now! Certainly an interesting concept, and a shame, maybe if the HE had been made from stainless then the technology would still be around now.

The flue terminal, (i'm working from memory here, and we left the property where the boiler was in 1983!), was quite a solid affair, possibly cast alloy rather than the 'thin' sheet stainless terminals often seen on balanced flue appliances. It dont recall it rusting so I assume wasn't ferrous, but I cant think what it could have been made of.
 
My late Dad's best friend, an electrical engineer, installed one in his own house in the mid '60s. He used an incredibly complex control system, which I thought was grossly OTT.

He is still around, and gave me an excellent overview of three-phase technology recently. I will try to tap him up for info if anyone's interested.

Meanwhile, does anyone remember the Cannon C52 boiler? This was another late '60s high efficiency product.
 

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