Advice on removing wall

[^woody^]

A 190 joist is not going to span that kitchen and dinner without a mid span support.

 

[Rick888]

called a SE today, they want £650 to come and have a look, ive got another builder coming this week,

i need to tell building control?

 

[Rick888]

A 190 joist is not going to span that kitchen and dinner without a mid span support.

so where the kitchen wall is supporting, the dining room has french doors so this isnt supporting or it it also

 

[Newboy]

i need to tell building control?

https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/33/internal_walls/4

 

[^woody^]

so where the kitchen wall is supporting, the dining room has french doors so this isnt supporting or it it also

 

[Rick888]

sorry predictive text,

so the kitchen wall is a supporting wall, is thewall leading through to the living room a supporting wall with french doors in?

 

[Newboy]

Probably.

But why not just get a SE to take a look/advise you then you'll be able to make a decision and instruct a builder accordingly?

 

[^woody^]

All external walls are structural/supporting walls.

Going by that plan, the ground floor internal walls going vertically are load bearing, and those going horizontally are not. But as always things need to be checked first.

£650 is a lot for an engineer and a simple beam such as would be required here. Check if your council actually need calculations to be provided, as many now will accept beams of certain size, up to certain spans.

The tricky thing here is getting the beam in the floor void, so you need an experienced builder.

 

[Rick888]

https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/33/internal_walls/4

thanks ill take a look

All external walls are structural/supporting walls.

Going by that plan, the ground floor internal walls going vertically are load bearing, and those going horizontally are not. But as always things need to be checked first.

£650 is a lot for an engineer and a simple beam such as would be required here. Check if your council actually need calculations to be provided, as many now will accept beams of certain size, up to certain spans.

The tricky thing here is getting the beam in the floor void, so you need an experienced builder.

i will call the council tomorrow and see what they say, the first quote we have the builder said he will do the beam under the joists for the price and will be alot more if i want it sunk in, i would sink it in myself with some help but the missus fretts and would rather it be done by a ''professional''

 

[^woody^]

Always put a beam in the ceiling not under it where possible. Spend the money it will be worth it.

 

[Ian H]

Would the builder cut the joists then post the beam in through a hole in the outside wall?

 

[Rick888]

i would do something like this with a steel inbetween, if i was to insist and do it sunk do i need to get a SE to calculate my steel? i would honestly do a better job as its my house.

 

[Rick888]

https://www.familyhandyman.com/walls/how-to-install-a-loadbearing-beam/view-all

looks like i need to buy the book the family handyman.

 

[Ian H]

I calculated my own online and have since been told by building control and the plan drawer that I need calcs from an SE. A thread in this section said my cat could do the calcs and it would be upto the councils own engineer to check them if they wanted them checking.

 

[Rick888]

I calculated my own online and have since been told by building control and the plan drawer that I need calcs from an SE. A thread in this section said my cat could do the calcs and it would be upto the councils own engineer to check them if they wanted them checking.

ha ha, is that to sign it all off? have you got to get the calcs then?