Am i stupid to buy an anylyser

[bster]

Anyone think its a good idea to invest in a flue anylyser even though i'm an apprentice.
My thinking is that if i can take it to work and use it i'll get my head around its use etc and it will obviously make me look into co\o2 figures etc and any other stuff related to this essential bit of kit.

BTW - i will hopefully be in possession of CCN1 + 3 appliances next year, though i am not leaving to set up on my own for 3 years +, if at all.


any advice?

 

[breezer]

i am not a plumber etc, I would say no.

eg, oi, bster, lend me your analyser.

2 days later, oh sorry mate i broke it

 

[scatmanjohn]

Does the company you work for not use them?

 

[breezer]

i forgot to mention, hand tools etc yes, plant, no

 

[bster]

There are 2 gas engineers, the one has just bought a new 'Testo' and i never see him (hes the boss), and the other gas man has inherited his old Testo - but it seems a bit erratic even though it has recently been calibrated, i'am usually busy doing gas rates/explaining programmmers etc when he is commissioning and dont really see him on services\gas safetys.

I would'nt not buy one because the boys would wanna lend it cause they aint getting it! - there is only one other guy who would know what it was let alone use it and interpret the results.

 

[chrishutt]

I've has a Testo or several years, but it's now out of service due to lack of cells and calibration. I'm inclined not to bother with it anymore, but to invest instead in a good CO detector and a digital manometer.

I know that an FGA can do all these things, but in the case of the Testo it had to be set up (self-calibration?) before any use, which made it too much trouble. And being an expensive bit of kit, I was reluctant to have it knocking around where it would be handy.

 

[corgiman]

My ten pences worth

If you are planning to install and service a lot of condensing boilers, get one

if not dont

 

[bster]

Yeah the hand me down Testo has to calibrate itself before use(very annoying).
I was looking at a Kane analyser

I dont need an all singing all dancing thing just co\co2 ratio and co

 

[micky p]

i bought an Anton sprint 2000 about a 2 months ago and it is great. I used to have a kane 400 but kane wanted £180 regardless of what needed doing to it. That is quite a bit every 12 months when it only needs calibrating. The unit only costs £400 new. Corgi are saying that every installer will need soon if not now. Especially with all the condensing range of boilers on the market now. I mean if you swap a gas valve on a pre mix burner you will need to re set up the CO2 (gas/air mixture) and you can only do this with a anylyser.

 

[bster]

so it probably is a good idea to get one, but i wont bother getting it re-calibrated after 12months, unless i am activly using it on the job proper.

 

[Agile]

To Chris, I strongly recommend you get yours fixed. G&ES do a 10% discount for ARGI members and Kevin there is VERY helpful, even mention my name. You need the FGA for any work on a premix.

I prefer the Kane but its very expensive to recal or change cells as they will not supply cells to others. The Testo is much cheaper to maintain but the Sprint 2000 latest version looks VERY good !

All FGA have to go through the cal process and that MUST draw in external air ! It only takes a minute!

I dont recommend Bster gets one. They are expensive to buy and operate and MUST be calibrated every year. He is better spending his money on a gas leak detector and digital temperature gauge.

Tony

 

[corgiman]

again if he expects to go to alot of condensors he is going to need one

 

[oilman]

i.................... I used to have a kane 400 but kane wanted £180 regardless of what needed doing to it. That is quite a bit every 12 months when it only needs calibrating. The unit only costs £400 new.

I've had the pump replaced, and the unit calibrated, About £90, includes 5 filters and a printer paper roll and spare batteries.

Corgi are saying that every installer will need soon if not now. Especially with all the condensing range of boilers on the market now. I mean if you swap a gas valve on a pre mix burner you will need to re set up the CO2 (gas/air mixture) and you can only do this with a anylyser.

Do gas boilers not need a combustion check then? Why are condensing boilers different?

 

[bripl]

you can set up a gas condenser without a fga,a much more reliable method is available does not require calibration and is more accurate only problem with it is you cannot get a printout to verify your findings.fgas at the moment have a built in tolerance erring on the side of caution so efficiency readings can be a tad optimistic,plus they are a bit temperamental to the rigours of life in a plumbers van.

 

[kevplumb]

have a word trev and educate me pleeeese