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Amnesty for illegal immigrants?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Notch7, 25 Apr 2018.

  1. SirGalahad

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    The vast majority are overstayers on visas.

    The more relevant question is that if this is the will of the people - remove illegal immigrants then why haven't successive Governments listened to the public?
     
  2. Amnesties don't work they only encourage more illegal immigration.
     
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  3. Notch7

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    If the government has allowed overstayers to remain here without being pursued for many years, then those people have settled. In which case, I don't think it is fair to start deporting them now.

    I'm not sure it would encourage more illegal immigration, doesnt that depend on government policy?

    I don't how difficult it is to catch overstayers. It isnt like such people can be stopped with border checks, these are people that have entered legally, students for example.

    The Windrush generation are different, they are people from commonwealth countries invited here and are being threatened with deportation due to flaws in the system.
     
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  4. SirGalahad

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    The problem I have with over stayers is they specifically broke their Visa agreement. The lack of entry and exit checks is still to this day a damning indictment of successive governments.

    If their is no penalty for overstaying then the VISA is worthless. I would give VISA over stayers time to leave in an orderly fashion unless they can make a case that them leaving will create more harm to the UK. For example they are working on some research that very few people are experienced in.
     
  5. Notch7

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    I think it is very difficult to assess.

    How can the home office distinguish between an illegal immigrant and a commonwealth immigrant with no paperwork.

    I imagine there is going to be sharp rise in cases of claims of legal immigrants from commonwealth nations.

    Would entry and exit checks prevent overstayers? (I dont know, just wonder)

    I heard earlier there are plenty of illegal immigrants that get brought here by traffickers, get taken to a solicitor to get in their claim of asylum, then absond.
     
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    Did you hear how they are brought into the country?
     
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    As you said yourself ellal, you couldn't make this s hit up no matter how hard you try! #12 is my address, #11 as you can see is BM mortgage, to my limited knowledge they only do buy2let mortgages, please note mr P Red aka Pred IMG_20180426_182311.jpg
     
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  10. ^woody^

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    Yeah, amnesty, put them up in hotels and pay them £ 000's. We'll call in being Grenfelled.
     
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  11. Bodd

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    Thats a little harsh.
     
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    Harsh on the law abiding UK citizens that live here? Damn right.
     
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  13. Bodd

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    Anyone ilegal should be given 3 years to hand them selfs in and each case will be dealt with to determine if they should be allowed to stay or not

    Those allowed to stay could be made to pay extra tax to make up for what they have not paid. Those found guilty of committing crimes will not be allowed to stay.

    In the mean time bring out a scheme for ID cards nationally.

    Those then found after this will be deported.
     
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    Perhaps "Common Sense" needs to be applied to this windrush caper .


    Something that seems to be lacking in all walks of life ?
     
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  15. SirGalahad

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    We don't need an ID card scheme. It will be a single point of failure and guaranteed to be compromised.

    We need a sensible approach not one for the baying masses lead by the DM brigade.

    I would say something along the lines of what Bodd mentioned. I would give illegal immigrants 3 years to come forward and have their cases heard on a merit basis. After 3 years they lose the right for their case to be heard and it's on yer bike.

    Those who have integrated and settled and are contributing you can assess them and offer them a route to citizenship say after 10 years providing they remain on good behaviour.

    Only fools will think round them up and ship them off.

    This won't be cheap. But I'm tired of idiotic government thinking they can do this on the cheap or contract this out. It's a long term problem that can be solved.

    We want people with skills still to see the UK as a great destination.
     
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    All good but ID in some form can work with modern Technology
     
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