Angela Rayner

[motorbiking]

No it wasn't.

was so

 

[blup]

Its possible Kier will keep her on as a lame duck, but if she is shown to have lied or misled him or the country, that will be a very difficult call.

 

[denso13]

Giving the wrong address for voting is serious

It would be if part of a bigger plan, to say register at more than one address to have more than one vote.

But a genuine oversight that caused no harm (hypothetically)? I don't know if that is really a serious offence.

 

[motorbiking]

It's not a serious offence. End of the day, I'm guessing she still voted in the same elections for the same candidates. it's only serious if it was to say, assist with the tax evasion for example.... oh wait.

 

[JonathanM]

According to Wikipedia (so caution!) at this time our reserves are £184bn, £20bn of which are in gold.

If the gold hadn't been sold, presumably our reserves would be just under £200bn and about £35bn would be in gold.

It's time for people to stop obsessing!

 

[JonathanM]

It's not a serious offence. End of the day, I'm guessing she still voted in the same elections for the same candidates. it's only serious if it was to say, assist with the tax evasion for example.... oh wait.

Do you think she planned the CGT thing all along?

 

[motorbiking]

I think this was to avoid a claw back on her right to buy discount.

the rules for married couples are archaic and I sympathise with her mistake. Its was the same for divorcing couples until recently. You have to pay capital gains tax to give your ex-spouse a property that a judge has told you to give. Also if the family home went up in value after you left, you are due capital gains tax on the growth as its not your home. At least now such transfers are exempt.

 

[blup]

It would be if part of a bigger plan, to say register at more than one address to have more than one vote.

But a genuine oversight that caused no harm (hypothetically)? I don't know if that is really a serious offence.

It is a serious issue in its own right IMO. She is a professional politician. There may be mitigating circumstances. I am not suggesting she is guilty or that a prosecution is appropriate, plod are clearly under political pressure on this one. Where you live for tax purposes is entirely different for electoral purposes, plod will doubtless confuse themselves.

 

[JonathanM]

I think this was to avoid a claw back on her right to buy discount.

I thought that was most likely, initially. But I've been told since, on here, that there is no claw back unless you actually sell it.

 

[aveatry]

I am not suggesting she is guilty or that a prosecution is appropriate, plod are clearly under political pressure on this one.

Starmer has form on putting plod under political pressure to get off the hook

 

[JonathanM]

It is a serious issue in its own right IMO. She is a professional politician.

She wasn't at the time, though.

Where you live for tax purposes is entirely different for electoral purposes, plod will doubtless confuse themselves.

Quite likely

 

[motorbiking]

actually she was. Her "working" life was very short.

A working life: the union official

Starting as a home help, Angela Rayner was soon a Unison steward, badgering bosses and hobnobbing with prime ministers, she tells Mark King

www.theguardian.com

 

[motorbiking]

I thought that was most likely, initially. But I've been told since, on here, that there is no claw back unless you actually sell it.

What do you do if you can't sell your right to buy house due to claw back... rent it out?

Could open a bigger can of worms if it was mortgaged, let alone declaring taxes on the income and of course it impacts your residence relief.

hence why its best to deny it.

 

[blup]

I think this was to avoid a claw back on her right to buy discount.

She sold it after 8 years, clawback ends after 5 years?

 

[JonathanM]

What do you do if you can't sell your right to buy house due to claw back... rent it out?

You've said that a few times. Is there any evidence of that?