Boris or corbin

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Now Boris is interesting and corbin looks like a scruff and thinks like a nutter.

Emily Thornberry .......Diane Abbot .....says it all about Corbin......I rest my case :ROFLMAO:
 
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Boris. Prize ****. Proof that the elite still hold the reigns of power in this country.

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This forum is crawling with fools who keep voting these toffs into power, they really are just too easy to con.

Time and time again the toffs create a fictious enemy be it immigrants, Big government, socialism and these fools just lap it up.
 
This forum is crawling with fools who keep voting these toffs into power, they really are just too easy to con.

Time and time again the toffs create a fictious enemy be it immigrants, Big government, socialism and these fools just lap it up.

But you pay less tax under the conservatives so for working families without savings they seem good.
 
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This forum is crawling with fools who keep voting these toffs into power, they really are just too easy to con.
Time and time again the toffs create a fictious enemy be it immigrants, Big government, socialism and these fools just lap it up.
...but it is the will of the people. Is that not all that matters?
 

As you earn between £50k and £80k, Boris is tempting you with a tax cut.

How are your public services holding up? Any PCSOs left in your area? Libraries closing down? Unqualified TAs replacing teachers? How long does it take to get a doctor's appointment?
 
But you pay less tax under the conservatives so for working families without savings they seem good.

I wish that was true but its not. We have the highest tax burden since 1969/70.

The media do a great job of selling the torys as the party of low tax, they are not.

I pointed out before they have shifted taxes to be more indirect and pushed it onto people rather than businesses.
 
personal allowance this year is £12,500 IIRC. It roughly follows inflation, except when there's an election coming up and it gets a bit extra.
 
As you earn between £50k and £80k, Boris is tempting you with a tax cut.

How are your public services holding up? Any PCSOs left in your area? Libraries closing down? Unqualified TAs replacing teachers? How long does it take to get a doctor's appointment?

Thats all the fault of immigrants. (y)
 
...but it is the will of the people. Is that not all that matters?

:mrgreen:

This is why these economic models are flawed they assume rational actors who maximise utility. In reality people keep voting against their self interests. Chomsky was bang on the money with his term "manufactured consent".
 
Who should we be voting for?

That is a very good question. The best way to answer that is look at where you spend your money - water, electric, gas, fuel, council tax and the services you or your family uses - NHS, schools, roads and see what has improved and what hasn't and then why.

Here is a starter for ten, since the water companies have been privatised in 1989, none had any debt. Now the water companies have debts for £56bn and have paid out £51bn to their shareholders, many being foreign utiltiy providers themselves. So they hardly invested anything more than the minimum whilst being able to raise huge amounts of debt that was paid by your ever increasing water bills for no benefit to you.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46443700

Thats the cuts councils have faced, not to say they were not inefficient but the bulk of their spending is on education. Education matters because we need our next generation being able to create the new tools, technologies, products and services which we can export.
 
Who should we be voting for?

There are calculators, or apps, which list various policies, and you rate yourself as agreeing or disagreeing with them.

For example, it might ask if you think that railways, the post office, and the National Grid should be nationally owned.

Or if you think that multimillionaires should be able to pass on their wealth without being charged Inheritance Tax.

Or if you think there should be limits to rent rises or energy bills.

Or if taxes for richer people should be reduced, but not for poorer people.

Or if you think your house should be compulsorily sold to pay for your care when you are old, frail, or have dementia.

Or if you think that public services should be cut so that taxes can be reduced.

You may find you are broadly in agreement with one party or another.

Here's an example.
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/faq

You can also see which policies the citizens favour, for example on YouGov.

You can't rely on newspapers, most of which are owned and controlled by multi-millionaire tax-dodgers. Unless you are one yourself, the results they urge on you will not be in your interests, but in theirs.
 
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