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Boss wireless thermostat

Discussion in 'Plumbing and Central Heating' started by Daniel Catterwell, 23 Nov 2019.

  1. Daniel Catterwell

    Daniel Catterwell

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    Hi we’ve had a new wireless thermostat fitted to our combi boiler.

    we have it on manual temp mode and most of the day it appears to keep it within 2 or 3c of what we set. Not great but will do however in the evenings we will have it set to say 20c but the boiler just keeps firing the heating until it gets to say 26c and we just turn boiler off. It’s like the boiler is over riding. We’ve also tried putting it on timer program on the thermostat but in the evenings the boiler still disregards it and just has heating on constant Any help would be appreciated
     
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    What boiler do you have? Does it perform as it should regarding turning on and off? It might not have a link inside the boiler removed, which could be keeping it on.
     
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  4. Daniel Catterwell

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    Logic combi boiler Er I believe 34. I just can’t understand why it’s only in the evening it insists on trying to cremate me despite being set at 18c the room temp will be 25 and boiler still got heating on
     
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    Your not alone, I had problems with last house, I tried a battery powered thermostat which could be moved around, and I found most of the problem was due to location of the thermostat. The thermostat in the end failed, it lost range and had to be placed closer and closer to the receiver, and it did not have a fail safe, so if a command to switch off was missed, it would continue heating until temperature changed.

    But before it failed, experiment found being on a table around 2 foot from radiator worked best, set it a little high to compensate for being so close, but it worked well, realised the wall opposite to radiator was a cold wall, so it was in its own micro climate.

    So when if failed, did not want same again, so fitted programmable thermostatic radiator valve heads, found I needed to trim the lock shield valve a little, but once that was done they were within 1°C of target once enough time to change temperature had lapsed, normally within 0.5°C, there was however a small complaint, the anti hysteresis software was too good, so set from 16°C to 20°C at 7 am and it was 10 am before room at 20°C, so cheated, at 7 am set to 21°C and at 8 am back to 20°C and by 8:30 am it was at 20°C. I was very pleased with the results.

    When I moved to new house, I took the electronic TRV heads with me, in this house with an oil boiler rather than a modulating gas boiler in old house, they are not as good, however as yet not tried trimming the lock shield valves.

    First house used Energenie MiHome rather expensive, around £45 each, these went down stairs in new house, we then got 5 stand alone eQ-3 bluetooth electronic heads, just £15 each these are fitted upstairs and kitchen, I am very pleased with the result. Without bluetooth found at under £10 there is also the Terrier i30 which does same thing.

    In theory the wall thermostat stops the boiler cycling, it is the TRV head which limits each rooms temperature. Even if the wall thermostat does stick on, the room should not heat up too much, as the TRV should turn off the radiator, however any TRV takes time to move, so if the lock shield valve it open too far, the radiator will get really hot before it can turn off, so room over shoots, but once set the TRV is gradual opening and closing and the boiler modulates (gas) so you get a far better control from a TRV head than in the main a wall thermostat, of course learning thermostats like Nest work out how much it will over shoot so switch of boiler before set temperature to stop it over shooting, it even shows on the thermostat how long it will take to reach new temperature. EvoHome, Tado, and Hive are controlled by the TRV, Nest should work other way around, the wall thermostat changes the TRV setting, however in practice for me that did not work. But unless using a "Smart" thermostat then the TRV is the main control.
     
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    What's the model of wireless device.
    Look at the MI's for placement of sender and receiver... Might be that receiver has been poorly located.
     
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    Ok have you checked if it needs new batteries?
     
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    Yeah battieries are find it’s brand new thermostat only got fitted 3 days ago. Also it’s located correctly it’s only about 4M away from boiler and receiver as is one bed flat
     
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    Apologies you didn’t say it was new. I still think there might be a link left in, and maybe it’s trying to run off the two?
     
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    Yeah it’s very confusing. The odd part is it only disobeys it from roughly 4pm - 9pm then works as it should it’s odd
     
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    Did you remove the roomstat link in the boiler terminal when you installed the new room stat
     
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  13. Daniel Catterwell

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    Tbh wouldn’t know as engineer done it
     
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    Get your engineer back then, as it only appears to have gone wrong since then. Free of charge of course.
     
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