Building Steps up to new front door.

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Hey guys got a job on just now which is requiring approx 15 new steps up to a new front door.
There is a landing at both top and bottom.
I’ve been asked if I can now shutter the steps and landings and cast them in situ whilst the strip foundation for a retaining wall is being poured.

Just wondering what your guys thoughts were on how viable an option this is. And what kind of prep work would have to go into under the shuttering. Would I have to dig right down to the new found level or could I step the concrete? There are also two 100mm flanking walls running up either side of the new staircase which I will need to dig out and lay a foundation for.

I’ve attached some pics the new front door is coming in right where the smaller window is at the front.
 

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Cheers woody

Do you think shuttering and pouring concrete steps after the 2 sides are up to height would be ok? And would you dig the full 1800 of the new stairway right out?
The sides need to be built first.
 
It will be easier to use a precast flight(as drawing specifies) and rest it on block wall at back near door.
If shuttering i would have thought best way would be excavate at a slope,build wing walls and concrete up slope using mesh like a slide,with rebar set in to attach new treads, then shutter and concrete.
Done one set of steps a while ago using concrete lintels laid on semi dry concrete, all laid in one day by two men,using sloped concrete as above, looked ok and solid.
PS you can buy steps 1800mm wide(better finish) about £75 each
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Cheers Charlie I did read the drawing it is the person wanting the job done was asking me if I could do it with the shuttering I think the idea being to save some cash.

I know what you mean about it being easier with the pre cast steps.

if you were to do it like that do you mean you would build block walls for the steps to sit on along side the flank walls?

Forgot to mention the steps are getting covered with a slab/tile so finish isnt important.

Cheers for the reply
 
The precast stairs landing would sit on new wall under window and not on wing walls,why not build it all in concrete block laid flat same time as wing walls,dig the lot out and concrete same level as footing for walls,use mixture of block and concrete brick to suit height/width needed, then tile.
 
Cheers woody

Do you think shuttering and pouring concrete steps after the 2 sides are up to height would be ok? And would you dig the full 1800 of the new stairway right out?
If the ground is firm and not made up then the side wall foundation could potentially be stepped.

As for shuttering, that's fine in principle, but the practicalities, quality and finish possible may mean it's not the best option unless another finish layer of bricks or slabs is to go on top.

I would dig out for the side and the step foundations, concrete all those at the same time (ad-hoc shutters as necessary) and then build the walls and steps at the same time in bricks and then lay some slab steps.
 
Thanks aye going to look at working out the total going and build it with A mixture brick and block seems to me to be the most practical option now I’ve asked about. I’ll have to get the gas pipe shifted before We start digging anything
 

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