Bullfight called Off

[Norcon]

Right, thanks Cajar. See RH, it was easy and despite knowing this I don't think you have to insert a disclaimer and neither do I imagine for one minute your opinions are anything other than your own.

I don't need a disclaimer if I choose not to reveal who my employer is or my vocation. You, or cajar only discovered it by some serious and time-consuming searching. You lot must be obsessed with my private life.
By your previous reasoning, by stating who your rmployer is you can give more credence to your opinions.
I chose not to do so.
You did, and you then needed a disclaimer.

It's also dispelled my thoughts that you may be running an evening class somewhere in trolling.

I have done a fair bit of teaching, children and adults, and in some specialist subjects.

He'll say it wasn't him but his wife Norcon Can he be guilty by association?

I won't.
I choose not to disclose many things about me, as you do, but it has no significance or relevance, in my opinion.
My opinions and reasoning stands alone without any alignment, support, approval or qualification from any organistaion.
If you perceive that as somehow being less worthy opinion, I disagree.

You've just declared your self a land owner a few posts back.
How many acres do you own? Is it a secret?
Or is it as I suspect a "lie"?

You'll suspect whatever someone suggests, whether it is the truth or not, you'll never have the intelligence to realise that you're believing whatever you want to.

No one has suggested its a lie so far.
Is it?
How many hectares? Why such a big secret?

 

[RogueHanger]

If you perceive that as somehow being less worthy opinion, I disagree.

I value anyone and everyone’s opinion if it’s pull well, regardless and irrespective of their profession. But I think I’ve finally realised what ‘that thing’ is which gets up my nose more than anything else - your evasiveness! What you don’t say, or refuse to admit, tells far much more than what you do say. Your focus is on what you have said and think “I’ve won that one – he he”. , without realising you have not answered a direct question directly! That does not garner respect in anyone’s book Jim!

Why your obsession with my personal details? You're becoming perverted.
So for all those that withhold their personal details, you have no respect for. That's rubbish and you know it.

I choose not to disclose many things about me, as you do, but it has no significance or relevance, in my opinion. My opinions and reasoning stands alone without any alignment, support, approval or qualification from any organistaion.

I see the French way of life affecting your words there Jim

Sorry, BT, you're being very vague in your attempt to be insulting.
Please explain.

If, as you have just very clearly stated, disclosing one’s vocation “has no significance or relevance” then de-facto it doesn’t matter if it is included or not?

Exactly. So why were you so intent on discovering it if it it has no relevance.
I could just as easily pressure you for your shoe size, but (a) it has no relevance and no influence on your opinions, so I wouldn't, (b) you've chosen not disclose it so I respect your decision and (c) it would seem a little perverted of me to pressure you into disclosing it.

So, it illustrates how little respect the abusive posters have for my decision not to disclose my personal details.
Indeed one abusive poster goes to the nth degree to discover what I'd previously said about my vocation under a previous username. That's perverted!
Additionally, how much further are these perverts prepared to go in order to dislose more of my personal details.

More evasiveness and dodging to follow. Place your bets guys....

I think it's perverted to disclose people's personal details against and without their permission.
But that's the abusers for you.

 

[RogueHanger]

If you weren't so evasive, emeritus Jim, then Norcon wouldn't have had to post the same question again and again. I've been there with you too, so know how it feels. All you do is perpetuate the thread with your evasiveness - and over something as simple as what did you do for a living?

It has no importance or relevance.
Just as I explained to cajar, I choose not to disclose lots of thing about me, just like most other posters, but I don't continually harrass them to disclose something that has no relevance.
If I did I would consider my self a bit of a pervert.

I'm beginning to think that I am surrounded by some who are obsessed with minor and irrelevant details, in the hope of gleaning some advantage from it.
Well, do you feel more advantaged now?

It has importance and relevance.

You might place some importance on any of my previous positions, but I don't. You fail to respect my decision, but then you fail to respect any and everybody.

It means you were never an employer nor self employed and never subjected to the trials and tribulations that entails.

You obviously didn't read my reply. But you never do, so what's the point of asking me questions if you never read the response.

Your just an office boy cossetted from the real world living off a big fat pension who thinks all and sundry should comply with your crappy ideals.

How can I be an office boy and retired?

How many acres of land do you own? Is it a secret?
Is it about half an acre and your ashamed to admit that?

It's none of your business, and has no relevance to this discussion.

But most of your comments never do have any relevance.

 

[RogueHanger]

Well there are plenty ways to scare birds without lobbing house bricks at them.

What do you do? Shout, "Booo!"

You idiot - and bullsh.itter!!!

I’ve got a big problem with pigeons swooping down on my garden and wolfing down all the grub I put out for the Blue Tiits, Sparrows, Dunnocks etc. One thing I know is Pigeons have superb eyesight. Even from inside my front room I only have to wave an arm and they fly off; leaving the smaller birds thinking “What’s the pigeon’s problem?”.

So no, I don’t buy that anyone has to throw a single thing to shoo a pigeon off.

Sorry Mods/Admin. Really getting on my last nerve

Wonderful reasoning there, BT.
Anymore worthwhile comments?
What was it you said. I seem to have missed it.

 

[JBR]

Is this your job description?
http://www.prospects.ac.uk/equality_and_diversity_officer_job_description.htm[/QUOTE]

A very wordy job description that, condensed to a more manageable level, translates as:

"A person who can produce lengthy forms with lots of boxes for the rest of us to tick, but being of no practical use to anyone."

I should imagine that enviable position would require a very special sort of person, wouldn't you say Coathanger?

 

[RogueHanger]

It was easy to see he had never been self employed nor been an employer.
No "real world" experience and cushioned from the realities of trading in the real world.

Funny you should say that, notconcsious. The last half dozen or so job titles had "manager" in them somewhere. That usually means being responsible for hiring and firing, amongst other things.

I certainly have been self-employed for part of my working life, employing up to four other staff.
I am self-employed now.
Not in my main specialist role anymore.
Although I am still occasionally self employed in one of my specialist roles.

Half dozen jobs? Having difficulty holding a job down are we?
I expect they kept sacking you.

Yet more sweeping fallacious assumptions. You'll be catching up with cajar at this rate.
You're still being abusive with no arguments.

 

[Big Tone]

You took advantage of my personal details. Does that make you the pervert?

And you called your friend in England, Brum, all the way from "France", about a specific issue on just a forum FFS. Are you a stalker too? (Who does something like that FFS!).

Oh, I know. He’s a mate who you talk with all the time and just dropped that in eh? And enough pointing at stuff for him to get an opinion of a DIYnot forum in GD eh? .

I don't know whether to be worried or phone my connections in Staffs to see if you have some history I can trace so I can decide to ignore you or not as a real threat...

 

[Big Tone]

Norcon! JBR! And others who knew him before me. You were right.

He's made it to my ignore list.

Please, posters, do your best not to quote him.

Or I may just take some time out from this place...

Good luck.

 

[RogueHanger]

So I was right. You were just using your apparent concern for animals as an exploitation for racial abuse.
.
You are an overt racist, suffering from islamophobia..

Allowing for the fact that you are obviously not very bright, I will give you a valuable piece of advice.

When you want to criticise people, you need to make absolutely sure that you have all of your facts straight. To help you in this, you need to get into your confused head that islam is not a race.

You've made that mistake before.
I accused you of racial abuse and that includes religious abuse.
So before you go giving advice you ought to check your facts.
Oh I forgot, you don't do "checking facts before making silly comments" do you.

I'll look up the previous proof that racial prejudice can include religious prejudice.

 

[cajar]

I'm doing the same big tone. If I want to discuss race / religious issues with someone I'll talk to Micilin, he's a reasoned logical poster and has earned respect.

 

[RogueHanger]

Well now we know he is a law breaker. And a callous one at that!
And a hypocrite.


The Law:
Under Section 1 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act it is an offence for any person to kill, injure or take any wild bird.

To actually have brought the pigeon into the house alive but suffering and then kept it that way until its demise was also a serious offence.

Those are UK laws that you're quoting, Notconcsious.
Here in France it's perfectly legal and normal to hunt for wild birds.
We've had a few from the neighbour when he's had a good day.
We also kill our own chickens occasionally, without stunning them.
I also allow him to shoot at the pigeons on our land, 'cos they're a nuisance.

At the time you were still in the UK were you not so the UK laws are relevant.

At the time I was spending six months in UK and six months in France. I would even change my location to show where I was at the time.
The incident referred to makes no mention of where it occured, apart from in the garden, so you have made another fallacious asumption.
(they have gardens and kitchens and carrier bags in France. )

Is that all you lot do is make silly sweeping fallacious assumptions in attempts to discredit someone in order to try to justify your abuse.

 

[RogueHanger]

Council staff such as 'diversity officers' and 'housing officers' should not be lumped in with people who are due respect such as teachers etc, so dont try to hide your weasely body behind them.

Ah, so the truth is out. He is/was a 'diversity officer'! That explains a lot of his ramblings and the sort of topics he gravitates toward.

So you never had me on ignore all the time. I thought your curiosity would stop you from keeping out of it.

 

[RogueHanger]

The worrying thing is, I think you actually believe what you are saying Jim.

(I think I owe Norcon an apology)

Of course I believe in what I'm saying.
I'm saying that you lot are obsessed with my personal details in an attempt to discredit me, so you might gain some justification for your abusive behaviour.
In your attempt to discredit me you're making sweeping, fallacious assumptions and claims. But what's to be expected from abusers.

How about some reasoned debate, especially from the one who purports to respond to the post, not the poster.
Have you disposed of that principle now that it's been disproved and no longer applicable?
Another of your hypochritical claims.

 

[RogueHanger]

Not in my main specialist role anymore.
Although I am still occasionally self employed in one of my specialist roles.

Chief nobend ???

A sound reasoned argument.
Any thing of worth that you'd like to contribute?
Of course not, one of the chief abusers couldn't think of anything decent to say.

 

[RogueHanger]

I would guess he lives alone, on benefits somewhere in the UK. This is not the only forum he frequents. He "trolls" on several but not to be nasty. He can't really help himself. He is lonely and a little "unique".

Any supportive evidence?
No, as usual, none. Just a silly attempt at being abusive again.

Is this your job description?
http://www.prospects.ac.uk/equality_and_diversity_officer_job_description.htm[/QUOTE]
You're confusing past tense with present tense.
But you never were bright enough to realise that you've always been an abusive plonker.
Any worthy comments to make or just more abuse?