Yeh I did look at the free ad pages, seen one or two but don't really want to get a cheap or expensive pile of poo, after value. And my knowledge of tents expired when I left the scouts, which seems a distant memory now and tents have come on a long way since those days.look on things like friday ad ,gum tree or any other free ad sites etc.people are always trying to off load there things that look good for a short while.