Ceiling Pendant with Switch only Cable

[ForrestGump]

Hi All,

Hopefully an easy one but I can't find anything obvious online.

I am trying to replace a 'fancy' ceiling light with a standard pendant however the fitting only has one cable going to it.

From what I can work out this means the loop is connected at the switch rather than the light fitting.

What I can't quite get my head around is whether this means the wiring to the pendant should still be:

Live - Loop
Neutral - Line

As there are no other wires going to the loop in the pendant fitting, I'm not sure whether this changes things and whether the live should go to the Neutral instead?

I should note, the current light fitting has terminals for the wiring so I can't just swap like for like unfortunately.

Thanks

 

[JohnD]

From what I can work out this means the loop is connected at the switch rather than the light fitting.

Or there might be a junction box above the ceiling.

What did you find in the switch box?

 

[JohnD]

I should note, the current light fitting has terminals for the wiring so I can't just swap like for like unfortunately.

I don't understand what that means. Post a pic please.

The minimum number of wires your lamp requires is two, plus earth.

Surely that's what you've got?

 

[EFLImpudence]

I am trying to replace a 'fancy' ceiling light with a standard pendant however the fitting only has one cable going to it.

That's all you need.

From what I can work out this means the loop is connected at the switch rather than the light fitting.

Ok.

What I can't quite get my head around is whether this means the wiring to the pendant should still be:

Live - Loop
Neutral - Line

L - Switched Line
N - Neutral.

As there are no other wires going to the loop in the pendant fitting, I'm not sure whether this changes things and whether the live should go to the Neutral instead?

More nonsense.

I should note, the current light fitting has terminals for the wiring so I can't just swap like for like unfortunately.

Why not? What did you expect it to have.

 

[SUNRAY]

Hi All,

Hopefully an easy one but I can't find anything obvious online.

I am trying to replace a 'fancy' ceiling light with a standard pendant however the fitting only has one cable going to it.

From what I can work out this means the loop is connected at the switch rather than the light fitting.

What I can't quite get my head around is whether this means the wiring to the pendant should still be:

Live - Loop
Neutral - Line

As there are no other wires going to the loop in the pendant fitting, I'm not sure whether this changes things and whether the live should go to the Neutral instead?

I should note, the current light fitting has terminals for the wiring so I can't just swap like for like unfortunately.

Thanks

If you only have one cable, containing red or brown, black or blue and an earth. Oh and I assume the existing light works
Then red or brown to 'L', black or blue to 'N' and an earth to earth.

Yuo will have loop at the switch or in a junction box.

 

[ForrestGump]

That's all you need.


Ok.


L - Switched Line
N - Neutral.

View attachment 324391


More nonsense.


Why not? What did you expect it to have.

 

[ForrestGump]

If you only have one cable, containing red or brown, black or blue and an earth. Oh and I assume the existing light works
Then red or brown to 'L', black or blue to 'N' and an earth to earth.

Yuo will have loop at the switch or in a junction box.

Great, thanks that's

If you only have one cable, containing red or brown, black or blue and an earth. Oh and I assume the existing light works
Then red or brown to 'L', black or blue to 'N' and an earth to earth.

Yuo will have loop at the switch or in a junction box.

Brill, thank you

 

[ForrestGump]

I don't understand what that means. Post a pic please.

The minimum number of wires your lamp requires is two, plus earth.

Surely that's what you've got?

Sorry I meant one cable (with three 'wires'), I was expecting a loop in as well as a switch in.

Didn't realise you could loop through the switch rather than the light.

 

[ForrestGump]

That's all you need.


Ok.


L - Switched Line
N - Neutral.

View attachment 324391


More nonsense.


Why not? What did you expect it to have.

Not sure the purpose of this response but really not helpful, particularly the 'more nonsense' comment

 

[Taylortwocities]

Not sure the purpose of this response but really not helpful, particularly the 'more nonsense' comment

Unfortunately, some people forget that DIYers - like yourself- don’t know everything. Belittling your lack of knowledge is not only unhelpful, it’s downright rude.

Hope you have enough information to connect up now?

 

[ForrestGump]

Unfortunately, some people forget that DIYers - like yourself- don’t know everything. Belittling your lack of knowledge is not only unhelpful, it’s downright rude.

Hope you have enough information to connect up now?

I do yes thank you, all connected and working fine. Cheers

 

[blup]

Unfortunately, some people forget that DIYers - like yourself- don’t know everything. Belittling your lack of knowledge is not only unhelpful, it’s downright rude.

Hope you have enough information to connect up now?

Whatever happened to ban all sheds

Blup

 

[Risteard]

Whatever happened to ban all sheds

Blup

It's quiet without him and Winnie.

 

[Adam_151]

Whatever happened to ban all sheds

There are some folk who believe he still lives and roams these boards under a new name and that if you keep your ears peeled you can occasionly hear one of his favorite gripes comming from a distant corner, as for me? I'm not sure I want to beleieve in such ghosts, but even I have heard the odd percular turn of phrase in a deserted thread.

 

[Taylortwocities]

If you really miss him/want to be reminded, then type ban-all-sheds in the search and you get all the old ones.
Can't believe its been more thn 4 years since he left.
Here's his farewell... https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/ok-i-give-in.525730/