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OK yes I can see this can take 5 kg, assuming good wood screws into a beam, but most seem to have a weight limit of 5 kg when weight supported by the cord, some say static weight 10 kg.
I know my mother has a ceiling rose moved by council to fit a winch to get her in and out of bed, and when moved it was simply hanging from plaster board, even with these at end of day fixing may hold but likely whole lump of plaster board would detach from beams, plaster board is only nailed on to start with.
So should ceiling roses be tested when doing an EICR to ensure they are not potentially dangerous? Clearly a light lampshade and pendent is no problem, but I have an 8 bulb chandelier which I know has a ceiling rose like shown screwed into beam, but as an inspector how would you know?
Testing a ceiling rose by hanging a weight off it would clearly test it, and even ½ kg would be enough to ensure that lamp is unlikely to fall off the ceiling, I note with county council refurbishments any tenant fitted chandelier is removed and standard ceiling rose fitted, and tenant is charged for the work, and the chandelier removed goes into the skip.
Should this also be done with an EICR? My son was on a council estate refurbishment and there were some really nice chandeliers in the skip, most gone by morning. Not surprised I paid over £100 for mine, but the house is mine, so no one going to remove it but me, and easy to remove simply slides out.
So same as fire protection I suppose, does the weight a ceiling rose will carry matter when doing an EICR, I have watched videos of electricians removing MR16 lamps to check on connectors used, this is shown as unsatisfactory, so does the electrician have to test a standard ceiling rose to show it will stand the weight it is rated at?
I know my mother has a ceiling rose moved by council to fit a winch to get her in and out of bed, and when moved it was simply hanging from plaster board, even with these at end of day fixing may hold but likely whole lump of plaster board would detach from beams, plaster board is only nailed on to start with.
So should ceiling roses be tested when doing an EICR to ensure they are not potentially dangerous? Clearly a light lampshade and pendent is no problem, but I have an 8 bulb chandelier which I know has a ceiling rose like shown screwed into beam, but as an inspector how would you know?
Testing a ceiling rose by hanging a weight off it would clearly test it, and even ½ kg would be enough to ensure that lamp is unlikely to fall off the ceiling, I note with county council refurbishments any tenant fitted chandelier is removed and standard ceiling rose fitted, and tenant is charged for the work, and the chandelier removed goes into the skip.
Should this also be done with an EICR? My son was on a council estate refurbishment and there were some really nice chandeliers in the skip, most gone by morning. Not surprised I paid over £100 for mine, but the house is mine, so no one going to remove it but me, and easy to remove simply slides out.
So same as fire protection I suppose, does the weight a ceiling rose will carry matter when doing an EICR, I have watched videos of electricians removing MR16 lamps to check on connectors used, this is shown as unsatisfactory, so does the electrician have to test a standard ceiling rose to show it will stand the weight it is rated at?