Changed socket and now no power

[Ed_Corney]

So I needed to switch out a single socket for a double socket in my garage.

I must have touched the earth and neutral in the process of switching it as I have no lost all power in the garage, lights sockets, doors etc.

Oddly none of the RCDs have been tripped in the process and are still in their up positions.

Whatever combination of fuses I use I can’t seem to get any power back.

The consumer unit is relatively old a Wylex 1106.

Any ideas? (Other than the obvious of calling and electrical and not being such an idiot)

 

[Murdochcat]

Post a photo of the CU?

Is there a CU in the garage?

 

[ericmark]

Some trips need to be turned off, to turn them back on.

 

[JohnW2]

Some trips need to be turned off, to turn them back on.

They do, but, in this case .....

Oddly none of the RCDs have been tripped in the process and are still in their up positions.

 

[chivers67]

Yes I think Wylex you have to toggle completely to the off position & re-energise.

 

[JohnW2]

Yes I think Wylex you have to toggle completely to the off position & re-energise.

Yes, with some makes (MCBs and/or RCDs) you have to, in some cases quite 'firmly' - but in this case the OP seems to be saying that nothing 'tripped'.

 

[pete01]

Yes, with some makes (MCBs and/or RCDs) you have to, in some cases quite 'firmly' - but in this case the OP seems to be saying that nothing 'tripped'.

Unless he hasn't noticed it being halfway down?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Whatever combination of fuses I use I can’t seem to get any power back.

 

[JohnW2]

Unless he hasn't noticed it being halfway down?

True

 

[JohnW2]

Indeed. Who knows, but I suspected he meant that he had tried multiple combinations of MCBs on and off (I presume MCBs, rather than actual 'fuses', since he also mention RCDs).

 

[ericmark]

I remember with my dads house, I spend ages finding why I had lost supply, there was a fuse connection unit, feeding a fuse connection unit, and I had not found one.

But it seems in this case, hinged around the RCD. There is still a possibility there are more than one.

 

[JohnW2]

I remember with my dads house, I spend ages finding why I had lost supply, there was a fuse connection unit, feeding a fuse connection unit, and I had not found one.

I had a similar problem in one of my daughter's house. She had lost power to a shed/'summer house' in her garden, and there was no obvious reason why (nothing we knew about had 'tripped' or 'blown'). Eventually, we found an second RCD, in a little cupboard-like enclosure, in the unit beneath her kitchen sink. It had been locked since she bought the house, and she had no key - so, when we found the wires entering it, we had to 'gain access destructively'

Once the second RCD was found, it reset fine, and has been working fine ever since!

 

[ebee]

That`s why for some years now I have always favoured a circuit schedule fixed and durable near to the consumer unit plus a spare for their records plus one for mine, even so they do get ignored but you`ve tried yer
Sometimes the labelling on a consumer unit alone is enough but more often not though.
One strong case in point - an RCD notice - ten years after your visit and you explained RCDs and regular pressing of test button and its labelled and you put reminders on your paperwork and hey ho the kettle/steam iron has caused a trip and they have no idea what an RCD is and what the test button is all about

 

[ericmark]

Sometimes even with the test gear, one fails to find why a RCD/RCBO tripped. And test buttons can be a problem, I had a MK metal socket on my bench with built in 10 mA RCD, no amount of notices "Do not press test button" and people would still press it, and take out the 30 mA, 100 mA and 300 mA RCD with it, what a poor design.

When I finally got the power back on in my own house, wanted to see how close to tripping it was, so did a ramp test, tripped at 22 mA, and as far as I am aware, all that was running is still running.

But I have fitted a RCD FCU where it was not needed for the RCD part, it was simply fitted for the no volt release, as not built into the bench grinder, and an active RCD was the easiest and cheapest way to make it comply with HSE rules.

Having one on the feed to a garage, would mean if there is a fault on the garage supply, one can turn the main house back on.

 

[Ed_Corney]

I had a similar problem in one of my daughter's house. She had lost power to a shed/'summer house' in her garden, and there was no obvious reason why (nothing we knew about had 'tripped' or 'blown'). Eventually, we found an second RCD, in a little cupboard-like enclosure, in the unit beneath her kitchen sink. It had been locked since she bought the house, and she had no key - so, when we found the wires entering it, we had to 'gain access destructively'

Once the second RCD was found, it reset fine, and has been working fine ever since!

It was similar to this. Cheers