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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Richardp, 6 Dec 2009.

  1. Richardp

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    climate change
    too many people making too many £s on the back of climate change to be able to get a straight answer to this now, rising tides? when the ice melts in your G&T does the level rise? anyone noticed their glass overflow or do you drink it too fast to know?
    no one wants to say that there is no such thing as climate change in case its tempting fate and we become a victim of it BUT!
    your thoughts?
     
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    Climate change does happen but whether or not global warming is being caused by us humans is still open to debate, I think. :confused:
     
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    There used to be frost fairs held on the river thames back in the 15th and 16th centurys so if you were to say that is a good starting point then the winters in this country have certainly got milder.So is this down to mans influence or a natural theme is open to question but the trouble is, if the scientists and politicians have there way it is going to be a blooming expensive question.What about your good self Richardp have you noticed changes with the gulf stream affecting the islands weather patterns over recent years?
     
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    The problem is a lot of the the ice thats melting is above sea level on glaciers and mountains, so the melt water will cause a sea level rise.

    I think there is too much evidence proving global warming. I don't believe its all man made as there have been previous episodes eg vineyards in the south of england.

    The problem as I see it the speed of the change, its too fast for mankind to adapt to.

    What will happen if deep sea temperatures rise, millions of tons of methane could be released, as is currently happening in the russian tundra.

    How/Why should China and the like reduce there emissions. I recently read that 25% of Chinas emmissions are due to the manufacture of goods for the west - and our demand is increasing.
     
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    When our politicians tell us that global warning is our fault and want us to pay to reduce it, you just know they are lying. Has there ever been a modern politician that was honest?

    The Met office are now predicting global warning. But hey, they can't predict tomorrows weather with any certainty. So why would we take them seriously?

    Yes, there will be climatic changes just as there have been many times before.
     
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    Nothing seems to have changed,we have had some freak weather over the years, big storms,very hot summers,very wet summers etc even snowed a few years back, remember the fastnet disaster? that was in august, these days any of those events would be put down to global warming, what was last winter like? was it down to global warming?
     
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    Not so long ago all we heard about was the hole in the ozone layer and how this was allowing harmful rays from the sun entering the earths atmosphere and increasing our chances of skin cancer etc now there is a report from the British Antarctic Survey team saying how this hole is protecting the antarctic from warming so who to believe.
    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/283297
     
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    Man made ? I am skeptical.
    Land based ice melt - Antarctic etc would affect sea level I guess.
    The Earth's climate is always on the change doesn't go 'boom' warm today ice age tomorrow.
    A workman's eye view -- CO2 384 ppm (parts per million) in the atmosphere... that is ~ 38 per 100,000 - not a lot.

    We now have semi accurate data for 30 yrs out of 4.5 billion - Who knows just where the actual mean sea level may stand over hundreds of years?? Trouble with all of it 'who really cared' until relatively recent times? If data hasn't been carefully logged with calibrated ( :D ) kit then just like the proxy (poxy?) stuff ( tree rings etc ) Tis wide open to abuse. If not blatant misrepresentation then the choice of partial evidence to suite desired results.
    Computer modelling on the strength of miniscule data?
    Banking businesses must have been working with some pretty 'clever' software -- Look where it got them and us... Even with accurate raw data.

    What became of Gore's hockey stick? Nobel prize? IMHO that wasn't worth a handful of Co-Op checks !
    Allegedly, how Gore was introduced to GW by the daddy of the CO2 cause - one Roger Revelle...
    http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner/40867912.html

    Clik 4 Carbon trading and Obama More toxic junk ! More investment in hot air !

    Oz looks a better bet by the day !!

    :D
     
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    slip slap slop! :LOL:
     
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    Great ... Let's get our cars converted to use it and stop wasting our time building bus lanes where buses filled with loudmouthed scally's and snotty-nosed kids run along them every 30 minutes belching out clouds of sh1te!

    MW
     
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    Saw a programme recently which suggested that every so many thousand years the earth tilts on its axis so the north pole moves closer to the suns rays. This results in the ice caps melting, though not completely, and then over the next couple of thousand years it tilts back and gives us an ice age effect.
    If this is true then mankind can do nothing to stop it and we have to adapt like we must have done throughout civilisation.
    But then again, no point in speeding it up by not giving a damm.
     
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    Climate change cannot be controlled by us (humans).

    Oil wont run out in the next 30/40/50 years. The Falklands have seen to that.

    Paul.
     
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    98% of the earths warmth comes from the sun. :cool:
     
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    Regardless of whom or what is causing GW or if its happening at all the earth only has limited supply of fuel that we can burn so it makes sense to conserve it IMO.

    From my own experience living on a farm for a long time in my neck of the woods here in NI I would say the local climate has definately changed from what it was 30 years ago.
    Summers are a lot wetter now. Hay is obviously a thing of the past with huge 500 horse power forage harvesters to cut silage and large tractors to haul it into huge silos.
    Our little crop of hay took two weeks to make in the seventies. Silage in eighties and nineties took about 3 days.
    Now it just takes about 3 hours.
    Hay is all but impossible to make any more. :(
     
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    Biggest problem of modern day society,

    Must have it yesterday!
    Why don't people slow down and take life as it comes and savour the pleasant things the world has to offer?
    I'm not saying go back to medieval ways but hey, if I want a loaf of bread I don't see why some poor soul has to work in a supermarket at 3.00am just because I forgot to buy one earlier! Thats my fault and I should just have to wait till morning.
    Same with kids, so many people are dressing their 5 year olds as though they are 18 and going to clubs.
    LET KIDS BE KIDS FFS!!
    Sorry, going off topic here but I think it is all linked into modern man wanting everything but not willing to give in return.
    Treat the earth with respect and it will repay you.
     
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