namsag said:
SOFTUS you obviously have a plastic fetish but hey everyone to there own
That's the tediously predictable response to someone like me putting forward reasoned arguments for sometimes using plastic and sometimes using copper - the point I persistently make on this forum, that only two people have ever taken the trouble to understand, is that different circumstances call for different approaches and different materials. If someone insists on always using copper, then they demonstrate a closed-minded and hence non-engineering approach to problem solving. If that's you, then so be it.
...but if you actually read what i put you will see i said "previously fitted" which would imply not fitted by me.
Indeed so - my question was previously provocative. The question remains unanswered though - why don't you know if the plastic pipe has been installed right? And if someone else installed it then do you even need to know?
Yes subject is PLASTIC pipe is this not what the PLASTIC fittings are meant to grab onto.
Incorrect - plastic pushfit fittings can be used wholly successfully with copper tube. Similarly, compression can be used with plastic pipe. If you have some criticism of either, then you need to be specific, because the only problem common to both, AKAIK, is rodent attack.
If your going to use compression fittings and inserts you may as well fit copper as there will be very little time saved.
If you're incapable of saving time when you use a reel of plastic pipe to cable it through holes in joists, then there's something very wrong with the way you're using it. Or is the truth that you've never actually tried to?
Wether it is an install fault or faulty fittings is something manufacturer and installer will never agree on but what is fact is the failure rate weeks/months /years after installation for no apparent reason which does not happen with copper or soldered fittings
Nonsense - most of my callouts to leaks are caused by corroded or worn out copper. Now I'm under no illusions that copper still proliferates, therefore, statistically, most leaks are likely to occur with copper, so are you saying that you've collated all the figures for plastic and for copper, have analysed them and discovered that plastic is more likely to leak?
Frankly I doubt that you have, so I'm curious to know why you make the irrational claims that you do. As with most plastic skeptics, I'm willing to put money on the idea that you haven't used it very much and you don't know how to install it without getting leaks.
