Covid-19 discussion

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well yes

bowling green in Kentucky have been building corvettes since 1981 ish ( and thats just the corvette model )

Way down in Bowling Green, prettiest girls I've ever seen...

 
Anyway BACK ON TOPIC.

More reading on cases of Covid19 and how they were treated and responded..Patient 3 didn't make it, but an interesting read all the same about how his body defences started failing allowing other bacterial infections to kick in and the balance of drugs they attempted to use to fight multiple issues. It does make you realise what a delicate battle and intricately detailed battle doctors conduct which all have life changing impacts against a ticking viral bomb, alot of respect.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30200-0/fulltext
 
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I hope this isnt correct

According to the analysis:

Britain was expected to reach its peak daily death rate on April 17
when researchers predicted there would be a total of 2,932 deaths in one day.


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peak demand in the U.K. is expected to total 102,794 hospital beds needed compared to 17,765 available, 24,544 ICU beds compared to 799 ICU beds available

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/uk-...avirus-deaths-in-europe-analysts-predict.html
 
There is a zero missing off the end of the ICU bed count they mention under the chart which would be what we had before expansion. Also revised figures from a link marked "here" showing a rather wide spread in figures for each country.

I have noticed that % deaths/cases seems higher in england than the others. Interesting comment about death on ventilators today concerning dehydration maybe having something to do with it. :( They seemed to be suggesting making sure people are well hydrated before the go on one. Don't quote me on that though.
 
The closer the population gets to herd immunity the slower the spread of the virus.
The virus can't move by itself, it needs its hosts to infect others by coughing, sneezing ect.
Once someone is infected there are only 2 outcomes, either the victims anti bodies destroy the virus which means immunity for the victim or the victim dies which means the end of the line for the virus unless it has managed to infect other people before its host became ill.
Thats why the chain of transmission has to be broken in order to slow down the spread of the virus to the point where it becomes extinct.
 
Was reading this last night
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52239183
Knock on effect of the virus - people not taking children (and other ages) to hospital, despite being in a bad way for fear of catching the virus and/or NHS helpline or ambulances too busy.
 
Was reading this last night
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52239183
Knock on effect of the virus - people not taking children (and other ages) to hospital, despite being in a bad way for fear of catching the virus and/or NHS helpline or ambulances too busy.

This was also in the paper on Sunday which, ironically, came to pass on that same day.
That being my second-born's broken arm, and his refusal to go to hospital to have it treated.
 
The closer the population gets to herd immunity the slower the spread of the virus.
The virus can't move by itself, it needs its hosts to infect others by coughing, sneezing ect.
Once someone is infected there are only 2 outcomes, either the victims anti bodies destroy the virus which means immunity for the victim or the victim dies which means the end of the line for the virus unless it has managed to infect other people before its host became ill.
Thats why the chain of transmission has to be broken in order to slow down the spread of the virus to the point where it becomes extinct.
While this is true, we are so, so far from herd immunity it's academic. If it were a marathon we've only covered somewhere between 40 and 400 meters.
 
There is also no solid evidence that, once infected and recovered, someone is then immune to reinfection. AFAIK.
 
Or how long any immunity lasts. Seems Porton Down is looking at that.

More info on hydration problems. Google link as it may get past the paywall
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjWvLjS2d3oAhWbURUIHRndA-oQFjADegQIAhAB&url=https://www.ft.com/content/e26524a5-c868-451c-a7d7-a91627a1722c&usg=AOvVaw3brkVaDAqYORtvHLHst0Rf

I know some one who went into hospital following flu complications - the treatment caused kidney problems. There are several ranges of medication. Off the shelf, some
GP's can prescribe, dentists can prescribe a sub set of those and then ones that can only be prescribed in hospital.

The rest of the article relates to something that the mayor of New York mentioned. The health system is vulcanised and he must have flexibility. What he means is that it has always worked the same way and that way is rigid. Too rigid as he sees it.

Doh The link doesn't.
This one has for me a couple of times - same as above with the = and the following at the end removed
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...tent/e26524a5-c868-451c-a7d7-a91627a1722c&usg
Firefox then says this link is trying to redirect you to another address - click on it.
 
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Was reading this last night
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52239183
Knock on effect of the virus - people not taking children (and other ages) to hospital, despite being in a bad way for fear of catching the virus and/or NHS helpline or ambulances too busy.
Sad reading :( surely there must be an overarching rule that saysn for example if <12 then P1 and demote original ambulance call even if in progress.
 
Sad reading :( surely there must be an overarching rule that saysn for example if <12 then P1 and demote original ambulance call even if in progress.
I guess so and makes sense - I should imagine there's something like that in place anyway? Biggest prob is that ambulances were already scarce before this virus crisis. Just sad that more lives will be lost because of this virus without even catching it.

Also read an article that the NHS are urging those with a stroke to still to ask for help, rather than suffer at home. Getting that help however...
 
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