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Creating a flat roof

Discussion in 'Building Regulations and Planning Permission' started by Parrotface, 10 May 2020.

  1. tony1851

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    Yes, in the absence of a Juliette balcony it would because of lack of guarding. But was assuming the OP just wanted a J. balcony, so only Part L might apply?
     
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    Fine, no prob. if it complies with Part L.
     
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    Dear Gents,

    im completely unable to decipher what the reference to part K and L are referring too. A layman’s guide would be most appreciated!
     
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    The "parts" L and K refer to the Building Regulations that may/may not be applicable to any work you do.

    Structural alterations usually need to be inspected by Building Control Officer's from the local council to ensure what you do is safe (not all regulations are safety focused, but most are).

    Part L is around energy loss (doors would lose more heat than windows), Part K is around protection from falling (amongst bother things)

    There are aspects of both that would need to be considered if you changed the window for a door
     
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    Also, another slight twist... would I have an issue if after the installation of J balcony, I then went ahead and installed guard rails as I have drawn on the picture supplied? I’m thinking it might be better to have something that stopped pots rolling off in the event of high wind. 6207FB17-3790-4F75-B6E5-A20C1C9988AF.png
     
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    I'm not sure a removable/opening Juliet balcony and railings around the side of the roof wouldn't fall foul of the planners.

    You would effectively be making a "proper" balcony, even if you only used it for flower pots
     
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    All that effort to stop plant pots falling off... really? o_O I thought the purpose of this thread was to make the flat roof look ‘pretty’ but you’re now exploring options to draw even more attention to it :ROFLMAO:
     
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    I get it, I get it, I look nuts, but I genuinely like plants- a green roof wi’ a few pots isn’t a clinical problem pal


    I really don’t want anything more or less than a view that includes a few plants in pots... you must remember it’s second floor, so it’s rather aloof up there looking at the rooftops of terraced cottages, and as an ardent plant lover, I just want to use the space, as the garden proper is small.... I’m not gonna use it for beer o’clock or getting the pants off and sunbathing!
     
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    part K will mean the balcony balustrading will need to be 1100mm high -which I personally think looks pants.

    Juliettes seem to be loved by architects....they look pretty on drawings but not awfully useful in reality.
     
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    Would part K require structural calculation on timber/the roof to see if it’s up to holding a person weight? As I previously specified, no regular usage, just to hold pots
     
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    Part A is to do with structure.

    Joists designed and specified for flat roofs allow nominal loadings for access and maintenance. But when you start talking about balconies, that is where the issues and significant additional loads comes into play.
     
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    hmmm. So effectively, if I could find out how much mine is able to hold, would I be able to put a certain amount of weight on it without issues? How about erecting a minimal railing, a few inches high, around the edge.. sorry to be pedantic, but I don’t want to spend time and money on putting a few plant pots outside my window!
     
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    Common sense tells me that could be lethal!
     
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    If you just want something small around the edge could you go for some sort of decorative security spikes?
     
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